Timeline for Disable review icon in top bar during ban [duplicate]
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Jul 23, 2020 at 20:52 | vote | accept | Dan Lowe | ||
Jul 23, 2020 at 20:24 | history | closed | Cody GrayMod | Duplicate of Make it more obvious that you're review banned | |
Jul 23, 2020 at 19:13 | answer | added | CatijaStaffMod | timeline score: 2 | |
Jul 23, 2020 at 19:09 | history | edited | CatijaStaffMod |
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Jun 4, 2017 at 0:41 | comment | added | Robert | @Braiam Do we disagree on something? Sorry I'm not understanding. | |
Jun 4, 2017 at 0:39 | comment | added | Braiam | @Robert which is why I brought the numbers up to demonstrate that it's meaningless claim. Of course that the users that have power on the site would be a minority, as earning such power requires them to invest effort on the site, which not many do. | |
Jun 4, 2017 at 0:13 | comment | added | Robert | @Braiam Yes, that's why I thought it was a reasonably safe claim without looking up the numbers. | |
Jun 4, 2017 at 0:11 | comment | added | Braiam | @Robert of course is relatively high compared with the average visitor: over 85% of all visitors don't have an account. | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 23:22 | comment | added | Robert | @DanLowe I forgot about that. I was just trying to make the point that the people affected by review bans are in general doing a very helpful thing for SE, so measures that improve their experience might have a much bigger effect on the site than is suggested by the small number. | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 23:16 | comment | added | Dan Lowe | @Robert There are also badge rewards for doing reviews (3 per queue). | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 23:14 | comment | added | Robert | @Braiam I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure 2k+ is high compared to the average visitor. I can't think of any reason for participating in the review queue other than to improve the site, and I am unaware of any reward for doing so. Perhaps my understanding is incorrect. | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 23:08 | comment | added | Braiam | @Robert that's a very weird reasoning you have there: 1. that "high level users" actively work to improve the site, 2. that they do for no reward, 3. that the proportion of users is somehow skewed towards "high level users". I would like to know from where you got that information. (note, that until you have 2k, 3k, you effectively can't participate in any of the queues, so if some comparison has to be done, it has to be against the 2/3kers which, btw, are just 64k users). | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 22:54 | comment | added | Robert | @JonClements Review bans are enacted on relatively high level users who are actively working to improve the site for no reward, right? So the low number affected may be grossly under-representing their value and importance to the site. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 14:08 | comment | added | Dan Lowe | @JeffLoughlin That's fair, though the review system is imperfect, and everyone gets banned... but given Oded's actual numbers, I now see that the scale of the issue doesn't warrant changing the site's behavior. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 13:47 | comment | added | Jeff Loughlin | If this is indeed a "long time annoyance" for you (as you noted), I would suggest you focus on not getting banned, and worry less about what the top bar looks like when you are. :) | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 11:14 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @Rhayene - access to review queues is dependent on reputation. That's a quick check on an object that's in memory (the current user). Being banned from review is an extra check - "is the current person banned from review". | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 10:24 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | To give a bit more context to what @Oded said there's currently 147 users banned from review on SO - the majority of which are one-off 2 day bans. I don't see how special casing those (especially if it adds overhead to each page load) is of any benefit when one would hope someone can remember there's no point clicking it for two days. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 10:15 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | Or for that matter, "are you under a review ban". The point is - it is relatively expensive, it is an extra check that we would have to make on every page load, even though it only effects a very minor number of people. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @Rha - it isn't the same check, and has a much lower relative cost (in terms of computational resources). There's a big difference between "can you review" and "are there any review items available for you". The two depend on vastly different things. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 8:54 | comment | added | ImBhavin95 | @Oded hmm as your thinking it will take so much load on server. stackexchange is very big company so have to add this feature so users cannot face this unwanted icon and text. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 8:25 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @ImBS - sure, very simple. Only then we call it on every load of every page of the site instead of only when someone clicks the icon. Which is the difference between tens of millions of calls to it a day and a few orders of magnitude less calls. Which has an effect on the database and web server and... At our scale, it becomes less simple than you think. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 6:47 | comment | added | ImBhavin95 | @Oded one idea in my mind you call same function at page load time and check if you get same text then hide top icon with jquery. That's it very simple. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 14:55 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @Bugs - likely because there are reviews in the queue (the highlight is general - not user specific at this point). | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 14:54 | comment | added | Bugs | @Oded well that's kyboshed that idea. Out of interest, why does it highlight? | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 14:43 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | The click initiates a call to the backend, which returns that HTML for the popup. The initial page load doesn't know you are in a ban. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 14:41 | history | asked | Dan Lowe | CC BY-SA 3.0 |