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May 18, 2017 at 17:56 comment added BSMP I strongly suspect this answer applies here as I've seen the same logic in comments on similar questions: A user asking for something to be written from scratch is asking for a tutorial, therefore they are asking for an off-site resource (because we don't do tutorials). I don't personally agree with this (neither did rene in that answer) but I've seen a few users say it.
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May 17, 2017 at 22:03 comment added River @MarkAmery while looking at examples to show you, I noticed this is only displayed for "off topic" closures. Bit odd, but I can totally understand you not reading it before.
May 17, 2017 at 21:58 comment added Mark Amery @River oh, wow. I never bothered reading (or really noticed, to be honest) the second list of close voters. You are almost certainly right, and I am living proof of Joel Spolsky's UI maxim that users can’t read anything, and if they could, they wouldn’t want to.
May 17, 2017 at 21:53 comment added River @MarkAmery close banners say "closed off topic by [close voters]". Then there's a section that says "The users who voted to close gave this specific reason" and has the reason. After this, a dash is shown and names are given, these names are a subset of the close voters. I always assumed these were the people who voted in accord with the specific reason quoted. Not sure if I'm right or not. (Here's an example with only 4 of the 5 closers: stackoverflow.com/questions/43905427/…)
May 17, 2017 at 20:45 comment added Mark Amery "4 of the 5 reviewers chose the 'off-site' reason" - wait, how can you know this? I thought that all we could conclude with certainty was that it was the (possibly randomly-selected tie-breaking) majority reason - i.e. that at least 1 close voter picked it. Aren't the precise close reasons picked by individual voters private once the question has been closed?
May 17, 2017 at 1:34 comment added ggrr "xxx can be understood as..." would you understand all questions about "How to I do xxx?" as finding tutorial? If not, what is your criteria to understand a question as finding tutorials if it is not requesting tutorials in words directly?
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May 16, 2017 at 22:52 comment added BartoszKP @TinyGiant No, it's not - why would you manipulate like that? The post says explicitly - a "good question", not a "great question". On the other hand, your link isn't a very nice example for someone who just said "possibly just your personal opinion". And arguing that because some questions aren't closed implies that they are "good questions" is a classical petitio principii.
May 16, 2017 at 20:56 comment added user4639281 @BartoszKP That's a checklist of what a great question contains. That is not in any way a checklist of what is required for a question to be on-topic. A better example would be meta.stackoverflow.com/a/338846/4639281
May 16, 2017 at 20:41 comment added BartoszKP @TinyGiant For example: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260648/…
May 16, 2017 at 20:32 comment added user4639281 @BartoszKP I would love to see that consensus. That seems highly arbitrary and possibly just your personal opinion.
May 16, 2017 at 20:21 comment added BartoszKP @TinyGiant Nice strawman attempt. Currently the consensus seems to be that a question containing a code sample with explanation what doesn't work in this particular piece of code is specific enough.
May 16, 2017 at 20:19 comment added user4639281 @BartoszKP There are many ways to solve any programming problem. Should any question that has more than one possible answer be closed as too broad?
May 16, 2017 at 20:17 comment added John O SO's doing the Wikipedia thing now. Instead of "all valid topics for an encyclopedia entry", they went for "all topics that will make us as hoity-toity as Britannica". In SO's case, it's just "all questions that will make the site look clever despite its best use case being for people who are less clever than they'd like getting answers to unclear problems with unclever solutions. It'll end up some monument to the interview whiteboard phenomenon.
May 16, 2017 at 20:16 comment added BartoszKP @TinyGiant As I've said - it's grey area, because even if it is a programming problem - it is definitely too broad. It asks "Is there any way", and in general there are many (to be precise: infinite) possible answers, because there are multiple (to be precise: infinite) ways to achieve what the OP asks.
May 16, 2017 at 19:34 comment added user4639281 How is that even remotely off-topic? It is asking how to find the duplicates in a list (with the requirement of getting the indices of each duplicate). It's a duplicate for sure, but there is no way that is off-topic. It is a practical, answerable programming problem that is unique to software development @BartoszKP
May 16, 2017 at 19:12 comment added TylerH I'm not one of the close voters but my interpretation of that close reason encompasses questions where OP seems to be asking for a tutorial of some kind.
May 16, 2017 at 19:09 comment added user177800 just because others post off-topic low quality crap and did not get the corrective attention it deserves does not mean that any subsequent low quality off-topic crap should get a pass
May 16, 2017 at 17:21 comment added BartoszKP @TinyGiant Let me get this straight. The guidelines on how does a good question look like are easy to find in the help center. And they are not the same as you seem to suggest. There are many reasonable questions, i.e. "In what year did Turing publish his famous paper?" - but reasonable doesn't imply a good fit for SO. The discussed question is grey area at best (and only thanks to the edits).
May 16, 2017 at 16:49 comment added user4639281 @BartoszKP Let me get this straight. It is a perfectly on-topic reasonable question... yet it is not a good SO question... WAT? If it hasn't been asked before, that's great. Another Q&A to add to the repository. If it has been asked before, close it as a duplicate. Why should it be closed simply because it's an easy question?
May 16, 2017 at 15:30 comment added BartoszKP @TinyGiant The question might be reasonable but is not a good SO question. Your description of the voters seems a bit ... over the top :0
May 16, 2017 at 15:16 comment added user4639281 Some people hate reasonable questions. Some people just want to see the world burn... they may be the same people.
May 16, 2017 at 14:53 history edited River CC BY-SA 3.0
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May 16, 2017 at 14:35 comment added BartoszKP @JanDvorak Perhaps I could, but my comment is pure speculation. A better source of information is someone who actually voted this way :)
May 16, 2017 at 14:09 comment added John Dvorak @BartoszKP clever. Are you willing to post this as an answer and subject yourself to community voting, though? :-)
May 16, 2017 at 13:06 comment added BartoszKP "Is there any" may be understood as a request to browse the documentation for the OP to find the class/functionthat satisfies OP's needs. In this sense it is an analogy to "is there a book" on a more detailed level - "is there a function". Or a simpler interpretation - that fact that OP is asking such a question suggest that they don't know references exist, so it must be that de facto they are asking to find the official reference for them and point to the solution :)
May 16, 2017 at 9:15 comment added John Dvorak Reclosed as too broad, most likely because it comes out as a write-me-a-code request. I would have preferred unclear (I think it's asking us to find a duplicate in an array if there is one, but I'm not 100% sure), but still better than offsite-request.
May 16, 2017 at 8:20 comment added Evk I think @BoltClock is right about keyword "is there any". I observe this quite a lot, for example if C# question contains "NullReferenceException" keyword - almost immediately people start casting close votes for famous duplicate question about that exception, without even reading the question.
May 16, 2017 at 6:25 history edited T.J. Crowder CC BY-SA 3.0
Link the *question*, not an answer to it
May 16, 2017 at 3:21 comment added Alexei Levenkov So strange that noone ever tried to iterate through list in Java so far... Probably pretty new language :)... I can see why one can vote (last) as "where to find guide on iterating through the list" and the rest - unclear, too broad, missing MCVE,...
May 16, 2017 at 3:02 comment added BoltClock Mod (Who wants to bet that at least one of them voted to close the question based on the appearance of the string "is there any"? That's the only remotely plausible reason I can think of for someone choosing that reason. Otherwise... yeah I got nothing.)
May 16, 2017 at 3:00 comment added BoltClock Mod This is the kind of situation where you'd think "hmm, were the reviewers given an audit with text from a completely different question that is a request for off-site resources?", but no, it's not an audit. So I got nothing.
May 16, 2017 at 2:29 history asked River CC BY-SA 3.0