Timeline for Open Source Advertising - 2017
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25 events
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Feb 9, 2018 at 5:01 | comment | added | Shai Almog | @AndrewSnejovski the goal is simplicity. Every extra word/character forces a reduction in font size and visibility. If you have a suggestion for a better tagline I'd love to hear it for the next update of this | |
Feb 8, 2018 at 12:19 | comment | added | user7436930 | Tagline sounds not very smart. | |
May 15, 2017 at 4:25 | comment | added | Shai Almog | Thanks, I wanted that too but couldn't find the right image. It's a free stock photo. The images I found with multiple devices were either ugly, out of date or noisy. | |
May 14, 2017 at 14:00 | comment | added | user438431 | I like CN1, use it for 5 different projects at the moment. Maybe the ad would be a bit more powerful if you took multiple devices and fanned them (like a deck of cards) or similar. | |
May 13, 2017 at 4:14 | comment | added | Shai Almog | Thanks. I don't think our logo is really important here as this is about the open source project. | |
May 12, 2017 at 17:22 | comment | added | Daniel A. White | the github logo is so much bigger than the project logo. | |
May 12, 2017 at 16:15 | comment | added | Shai Almog | That removes the mobile, I'd say "Mobile write Once Run Anywhere for Java" the problem is that I wrote something similar last year and got 21 downvotes: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/332873/756809 Possibly because of Trump (who knew, back then I still thought it was funny) but I'm a bit hesitant about it. Problem is that people downvote and then some people guess why the downvote happened after the fact and I'm pretty much at a loss to explain this. E.g. in this ad we got 8 downvotes while the other guys got 2 at most. Is it because of what you think or just because people don't like Java? | |
May 12, 2017 at 15:56 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | Why not just expand the acronym? "Write Once, Run Anywhere for Java" | |
May 12, 2017 at 13:20 | comment | added | Shai Almog | That might mislead people into thinking they can run their Android app on iOS which isn't the case here. We use the Android VM but our libraries abstract Android to provide WORA so it's really a different development experience entirely (GUI is written in Java not XML like in Android). I understand what you are saying but the problem with any complex product is no matter how I phrase it there is some aspect that "misleads". I used Java instead of using WORA to get familiarity, I also didn't want to use WORA since that might create a perception of a JavaScript/WEB framework | |
May 12, 2017 at 10:54 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | "Bring Java to more mobile devices?" | |
May 12, 2017 at 9:03 | comment | added | Shai Almog | I looked for a decent image of devices but couldn't find something representative that isn't too noisy. Since a form of Java is already on Android I didn't want to create confusion about that and Windows mobile isn't exactly the chief focus. iOS devices are the key "missing piece" when discussing mobile which is what I tried to convey in the image. I was conflicted about the wording as "Bring Java to ALL mobile Devices" but that would be "slightly" inaccurate because although we support tizen thru the JavaScript port, it's not exactly a first class citizen. | |
May 12, 2017 at 8:28 | comment | added | Mast | @ShaiAlmog People seeing the advertisement for the first time don't know that. Your add only shows one device. Your goal is to target many devices. Therefore, it looks like you don't convey your goal with your ad. | |
May 12, 2017 at 6:45 | comment | added | Shai Almog | Sorry @Mast I don't think I follow, Java does run on an iOS device with Codename One and is 100% Apple "safe" as we translate the bytecode to C source code with our open source VM. We also work on Windows/UWP with a .net translation tool (fork of iKVM). Can you give me a concrete example? | |
May 12, 2017 at 5:51 | comment | added | Mast | Perhaps to some the add seems to imply a Java <-> Apple connection. Keep in mind you're targeting explicitly multiple brands of phone, perhaps reflecting that in your add next year would lead to less downvotes. | |
May 12, 2017 at 3:33 | comment | added | Shai Almog | @ArtOfCode that really flows off the tong ;-) It explains less of what we are doing... What we are doing is clearly WORA on mobile, but the younger generation of developers isn't as familiar with the WORA acronym as it isn't as common. I also used that over verbose description last year and people complained back then too with a similar number of downvotes. | |
May 12, 2017 at 3:26 | comment | added | Ravimaran | I have developed a small app using codename one. It's truly a WORA technology and once I understood a little bit I was able to create really simple and slick app. I was able to demo it on both iOS and Android at the same time. Can't wait to learn more and build better apps. | |
May 12, 2017 at 1:23 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | How about "Help us make Java more interoperable"? That seems like a pretty accurate description of what you're asking for help with. | |
May 11, 2017 at 20:00 | comment | added | SolStack | CN1 is the most versatile cross platform mobile development environment that I have run across. Add to that the fact that it is open source, extensible, and supports native code as well. | |
May 11, 2017 at 16:40 | comment | added | James H | If you don't want to have to learn 3 or more languages and programming conventions plus the nuances/lifecycles of all the different platforms, Codename One does that for you. Focus on functionality and design of your app instead of figuring out how to port it to all the platforms and use the different IDE's for each. | |
May 11, 2017 at 16:08 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | I upvoted this because it does not have that "Make Java WORA again" tagline (unlike last year) | |
May 11, 2017 at 14:56 | comment | added | Shai Almog | Not on iOS devices, not on Windows mobile/tablets and not WORA. Notice the picture is of an iPhone device. Notice that it's just impossible to convey a REALLY complex project like Codename One without making the ad look like a lecture. E.g. in this "short" video I just tried to answer "what is Codename One" and it took me 40 minutes: youtube.com/watch?v=EMRmo6ZRnGw | |
May 11, 2017 at 14:24 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | Java already does run on mobile devices. Maybe you could come up with a slightly better short explanation of what you do? | |
May 11, 2017 at 12:21 | comment | added | tizbn | i like codenameone most | |
May 11, 2017 at 12:03 | comment | added | Shai Almog | Can some of the people who downvote clarify why they are downvoting this so we can improve? | |
May 11, 2017 at 9:54 | history | answered | Shai Almog | CC BY-SA 3.0 |