Timeline for Cleanup the mis-tagging between C# and VB.NET
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Jun 18, 2019 at 7:29 | history | edited | Bhargav RaoMod |
edited tags; edited tags
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May 23, 2017 at 12:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://stackoverflow.com/ with https://stackoverflow.com/
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May 7, 2017 at 17:11 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Active reading. [<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_.NET>]
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May 7, 2017 at 8:32 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @CodyGray It depends on the question, if it is about something in the framework .NET should be fine, if it how to implement something with the language. That was more of a broad statement, but it should be more of a per case basis. | |
May 7, 2017 at 7:34 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | "If the question is about .NET I suggest we remove the language tags altogether because it would be language agnostic between the .NET languages." So which language should answerers write the code in? The language tags are necessary to indicate this. Tagging them [.net] is not sufficient. | |
May 6, 2017 at 18:58 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | I am interested in c#, but neither vb.net nor .net, and I would prefer questions that are about some .NET API to be tagged with only .net, and questions tagged with c# to be only about the C♯ programming language. | |
May 6, 2017 at 18:55 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | I have noticed something related in the ruby and ruby-on-rails tags. There are plenty of questions that are tagged with both tags, or with just the ruby tag that are purely about Rails APIs. Since I, personally, am not the least bit interested in Rails (but really like Ruby), that annoys me deeply. I have experimented with various combinations of ignored and favorite tags, but there is just no way to get only Ruby questions, and I also have given up on trying to explain the difference between a programming language and a library written in that programming language. | |
May 6, 2017 at 18:41 | answer | added | Braiam | timeline score: 2 | |
May 6, 2017 at 16:05 | comment | added | jrh | ... I feel like [C#] and [VB.NET] could be near synonyms in some cases but on the other hand there are programmers that love C# and hate VB.NET and vice versa; forbidding C# answers in VB.NET questions would probably leave a lot of questions without answers, but going in the opposite extreme (e.g., merging VB.NET and C# into [.NET] unless the question is about a difference between the two) would probably leave a lot of frustrated casual browsers that ended up with search results that take more effort to read and use. | |
May 6, 2017 at 15:51 | comment | added | jrh | FWIW I started out in the .NET framework with VB.NET but I ended up learning C# first because all of the important blogs, posts, books, and reference material are C# (i.e., there's no CLR via VB.NET, and there really doesn't need to be one); they're really not all that different; the difference is 5% at most in where it really counts, I can translate from VB.NET to C# in my head though it might be because I do it on a nearly daily basis and I come from a C background. Compare the C# tag activity to VB.NET, VB.NET is practically a ghost town compared to the wealth of information written in C#. | |
May 5, 2017 at 12:24 | comment | added | user4864425 | I agree, that is why I think you should discuss that first, before you can even start to cleanup tags. But I think the outcome can only be a request for change. Since Tag cannot cover all needs. But I'm afraid that as long as functionality is not changed, the use of tags will not change. | |
May 5, 2017 at 9:48 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @RuardvanElburg I think half the reason I'm being disagreed with so much is that we have no consensus on what a tag actually is and what it should be used for. | |
May 5, 2017 at 9:32 | comment | added | user4864425 | It seems to me that this is all based on definition and perception. What makes a question specific a VB.Net question? When the OP provides VB.Net code? Or is it a .net question, prefereably answered with VB.Net. Is it a bad thing to draw attention? Are tags are being misused for that purpose? What about a question that is tagged as .Net. Isn't that basically the same as VB.Net and C#? And what to do with a Java answer on a C# tagged question? Downvote it, delete it? Just because the tag didn't match? | |
May 5, 2017 at 7:52 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @RuardvanElburg I think a tag organises a question into the categories it is about. A VB.Net question is not about C# so why tag it as such? | |
May 5, 2017 at 6:46 | comment | added | user4864425 | The real question is: what does a tag mean? Does it mark the language shown in the question or the preferred accepted language of the question? I think it is more annoying to tag a question with VB.NET and receive a C# answer. So I think the latter. | |
May 5, 2017 at 6:12 | answer | added | Breeze | timeline score: 1 | |
May 4, 2017 at 16:23 | comment | added | user1228 | I'm not going to play reductio ad absurdum with you today, sorry. I disagree with your stated question for the given reasons. Good day to you, sir. | |
May 4, 2017 at 16:20 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @Will So having a question that has ways to sort a list in up to 5 languages, with multiple answers for each language for different approaches, that will generally happen, is a good thing for SO in your opinion? | |
May 4, 2017 at 16:19 | comment | added | user1228 | If the OP wants an answer in any of those languages, yes. And if someone doesn't want to answer because it has a tag they don't like on it, fine. That's still on the OP. You can express algorithms in many different languages, or even in a made up language. Preventing people from doing this isn't going to improve anything. | |
May 4, 2017 at 16:05 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @Will So if a question is tagged with Python, C, C#, JavaScript and asking for a method to sort a list you'd be fine with that? | |
May 4, 2017 at 16:03 | comment | added | user1228 | If I can accept an answer in languages A, B, or C, why the hell should you come by and decide which one is the only one that should be accepted? Honestly, its none of your business what languages I am willing to accept an answer in. Just leave it alone and let people decide for themselves. | |
May 4, 2017 at 10:21 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @HansPassant True but in that case it is on the answerer to answer with back up evidence from the other language, not on the questioner because most of the time they won't know that, else why would they ask the question? And in that case only the actual language the questioner is using should still be tagged. | |
May 4, 2017 at 9:39 | comment | added | Hans Passant | Well, good, be sure to use your [c#] expertise to answer some [vb.net] questions. The distinction between the two languages can provide deep insight into the what makes the .NET framework tick. And it has a very useful support assembly that is often quite useful in a C# program as well. Learning coding techniques from each other is strong goal at SO. | |
May 4, 2017 at 9:30 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @HansPassant Also don't focus on comparing C# and Java, I just picked another random language. Think of another common mis-tagging such as C and C++ yet for this one we don't allow it. | |
May 4, 2017 at 9:28 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @HansPassant I don't hate VB.Net, not in the context of SO at least, I just think tagging with two language tags when you only want one just to get more attention to the question is wrong and abusing the system. People don't allow it for other languages but will for these two just because of how closely related they are and I think it's something that shouldn't happen. | |
May 4, 2017 at 9:24 | comment | added | Hans Passant | Comparing Java and C# does not make any sense. The unbridled hatred shown by [c#] programmers to anything that smells like [vb.net] is unwarranted and unnecessary. I suppose programmers have to hate something to live, plenty of stuff out there to choose from. | |
May 4, 2017 at 9:19 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @HansPassant And? I can code in Java and C# does that mean it would be appropriate to answer a Java question with C#? No. The same applies to C# and VB.Net , just because they are closely related doesn't mean it is appropriate to switch between the two as you please. | |
May 4, 2017 at 9:15 | comment | added | Hans Passant | It just doesn't matter, many [vb.net] programmers can readily adopt a [c#] answer. And use it as-is, mixing the languages is very easy, or simply translate the syntax. The other way around, well, not so common :) | |
May 4, 2017 at 8:44 | history | asked | TheLethalCoder | CC BY-SA 3.0 |