Timeline for New navigation bar layout is completely broken in IE 10
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Jun 2, 2017 at 16:42 | comment | added | Draco18s no longer trusts SE | @DavidG And those choices are reasonable choices. Not saying they're not. Just saying that there are some people who are stuck on browsers they can't update because the organization that controls their device can't allow an update because it would break a critical piece of software they spent a million dollars on and don't want to have to pay someone another million to rebuild it on a newer platform. (haha "a piece" haha, more like everything they use). | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 16:24 | comment | added | DavidG | @Draco18s Well yes, there's always someone who has to do these horrible things. But, for "real life", especially SO nobody should have to do that. The SO team are in control of the list of browsers they choose to support, and I imagine that the ones they don't support account for less than 0.1% of all traffic. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 16:04 | comment | added | Draco18s no longer trusts SE | @DavidG I was asked to make a training course that ran on "both IE6 and iOS Safari using the same code" only 3 years ago (the client even had the audacity to say "HTML5" as the spec). Maybe it was 4 now. Even if it was five years ago, that still made IE6 11 years old at the time. TL;DR I was successful, it looked like ass, and the client decided that that really wasn't what they wanted (so we rebuilt it in Flash). | |
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Feb 17, 2017 at 16:49 | comment | added | user4639281 | @Cory it's mainly for the expanding search bar and making the search bar fill the remaining space AFAICT. There are other ways of going about it, but none of them are as clean and maintainable as flexbox. | |
Feb 17, 2017 at 15:55 | comment | added | Cᴏʀʏ | Maybe this is a dumb question, but why does the new top bar require flexbox functionality anyway? You built a responsive navbar on a site whose content is not responsive. | |
Feb 17, 2017 at 15:31 | comment | added | user4639281 | For the record I upvoted this because it's a good duplicate target for others having the same issue. | |
Feb 17, 2017 at 15:28 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | Don't understand the downvotes. Even if Tiny's answer is valid (I tend to think it is), that doesn't make the question bad or wrong. And yes I know how votes work on meta! | |
Feb 17, 2017 at 15:22 | comment | added | DavidG | @Magisch 10 years?! Are you serious? Nobody should have to support 10 year old browsers. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 12:24 | comment | added | Magisch | @balpha For a site as big and as relevant as SO, 10-15 years after release should be expected as far as support for major browsers goes. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 10:52 | history | edited | balphaStaffMod |
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Feb 16, 2017 at 10:48 | answer | added | balphaStaffMod | timeline score: 39 | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 9:42 | comment | added | balpha StaffMod | @rene By the "IE11 is latest, so IE10 should be supported" logic, we would have to support IE10 until the end of time because IE11 is the last IE. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 8:54 | comment | added | user247702 | I can only reproduce this when I put my IE11 in IE9 mode, I cannot reproduce it when I put it in IE10 mode. Can you check with F12 if the page is rendered with an older version? | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 19:24 | comment | added | Kevin B | eh, i'd say just keep it broken in said old browser. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 19:23 | comment | added | user4639281 | Microsoft has officially dropped support for versions older than IE11 except the following: Windows Vista SP2 (IE9), Windows Server 2008 SP2 (IE9), Windows Server 2008 IA64 Itanium (IE9) Windows Server 2012 (IE10). I personally think SO should just introduce a basic HTML / CSS only version for older browsers that don't support current standards. That way we could actually move ahead in the world because there will never (AFAICT) be a new version of IE, or we will always be stuck with what IE10 supports and nothing more. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 19:13 | comment | added | Pekka | Not supporting browsers that don't stick to standards is respectable, but in the real world people sometimes don't have a choice. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 19:12 | comment | added | Anders | @KevinB No, it is still supported on Windows Server 2012 and Windows Embedded 8 and other places where you cannot get IE 11. IE 11 is the last version of IE ever so 11 and 10 will always remain the two most recent versions. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 19:10 | comment | added | Kevin B | 10 isn't even supported by MS is it? Wasn't it just 9 and 11, until they recently dropped 9? | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:45 | comment | added | user4639281 | Where would you ever get that idea? :P @rene | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:44 | comment | added | rene | @TinyGiant I see. I already got a very slight feeling, hardly obvious, that you didn't like IE10.... | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:42 | comment | added | user4639281 | Interesting. Well, I don't support supporting browsers that don't support standards, but if SO wants to support it then I guess that's fine @rene. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:38 | comment | added | rene | @TinyGiant Edge claims to be on a new engine. IE11 is the latest Internet Explorer, IE10 being the previous one. Edge is mentioned separate in the MSE post as well. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:37 | comment | added | Anders | I'm not even asking for full support but at least in non-fixed bar mode it should be able to contain its brokenness inside a div at the top. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:36 | comment | added | user4639281 | IE Edge is the latest, IE11 is the previous @rene | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:35 | comment | added | Pekka | @TinyGiant that's making it sound like supporting IE10 would make introducing the new nav impossible. Which isn't correct. It's rather a question of cost (the effort to write the additional CSS needed for things to display ok in IE10) vs. benefit. Personally, my gut feeling would be that investing the time to support IE10 is worth it - a lot of folks can be trapped in ancient working environments that are beyond their control. Hell, I've seen recent questions on SO about how to add a certain feature to IE6. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:35 | comment | added | rene | @TinyGiant isn't the policy the current version and the previous one? IE11 is latest, so IE10 should be supported, no? we support the last two versions of the browsers that we see the vast majority of our visitors actually use. from meta.stackexchange.com/questions/56161/… | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 18:28 | comment | added | user4639281 | IE10 is old and not supported. It doesn't support flexbox which is standard now. We can't hold back the web forever just because an old version of IE doesn't work properly. | |
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