Timeline for Top Navigation Update
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Feb 16, 2017 at 0:17 | comment | added | user554546 | @Oded How did this get through user testing? Did no one bring this up at all before rolling out the new navbar? I find that a bit hard to believe. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:17 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @JackManey - you seem to ignore - we are looking at it. Things do not happen immediately. I guess that's not good enough for you. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:17 | comment | added | user554546 |
@Oded - Yes, because non-new users would have no reason to go to the help page whatsoever without typing :wq or gh or whatever it is to get there instead.
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Feb 16, 2017 at 0:16 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @JackManey - anonymous users as well as new users (without access to review queues) don't have a review link - they have (shock horror) a help link. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:13 | comment | added | user554546 | @Oded Lemme guess: new users will have to manually fiddle-fart around in their settings to enable keyboard shortcuts so that they can get the shortcut to get at the help page that used to be displayed prominently... Is that right? If so, do you honestly not see a problem with that? | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:12 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | As we stated elsewhere - we are still looking at things, including the help link. Takes time. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:11 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @JackManey - sure, if you don't have the keyboard shortcuts enabled, they don't work. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:10 | comment | added | user554546 |
@Oded Oh, and incidentally, pressing ? has no discernable effect.
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Feb 16, 2017 at 0:07 | comment | added | user554546 | @Oded I know this sounds a bit old-fashioned, but I'd suggest a link that is either in the sidebar or navbar and is consistently placed for every single user, regardless of rep level or whether they're logged in. | |
Feb 16, 2017 at 0:02 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @JackManey - what do you suggest? H was already taken by Homepage. If you have the keyboard shortcuts enabled, the ? shortcuts show you a menu leading you to the different ones - it is discoverable. It is possible we are all idiots at Stack Overflow - it is also possible we are not. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 22:12 | comment | added | Undo Mod | @JackM See the question - a link is supposedly available for anon and low rep folks (I haven't confirmed that). The shortcut is enough for my power user needs. | |
Feb 15, 2017 at 22:10 | comment | added | user554546 |
@Oded Wow, G followed by E to go to the help center...that's so obvious and discoverable! And easy to remember! Because G is...ummm....the first letter in "Ghostbusters"...and E is the second letter of "Help". There's absolutely no way that a new user won't automatically know that this keyboard shortcut exists. Well done!
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Feb 14, 2017 at 14:00 | comment | added | T.J. Crowder |
What @Lundin said, but s/arrogant/helpful/g .
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Feb 14, 2017 at 13:54 | comment | added | Lundin | Scenario. Arrogant veteran user responding with comment to inane newbie user: "This question is not very good, did you even read the site help?" Inane newbie: "Nope! I didn't know there was one. Where can I find it?" Arrogant veteran: "Umm... it used to be up there to the right... umm... ask on meta." Inane newbie: "What is a meta and where can I find one!" Arrogant veteran: "Umm... it used to be up there to the left... err..." Inane newbie: "I don't get it. Code plz! Now!" | |
Feb 14, 2017 at 13:39 | comment | added | NSNoob | I think this has been now rolled out to broader network as It just changed my nav to this update even though I never signed up for the trial. | |
Feb 13, 2017 at 23:27 | comment | added | Undo Mod | @Oded Any reason it couldn't live in the site picker? i.sstatic.net/Fz5qq.png Seems like a logical place to put it and not too messy/crowded. | |
Feb 13, 2017 at 22:51 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @Undo - current state of affairs is not set in stone. There are a few good use cases for having help more easily available to higher rep users - it is a matter of figuring out where to put it. | |
Feb 13, 2017 at 22:49 | comment | added | Undo Mod | That's probably good enough for me, @Oded, although it still makes it a bit more difficult on a tablet. I can't stand moderating on a tablet anyway, but I know some others do. | |
Feb 13, 2017 at 22:48 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | We did add a keyboard shortcut - G -> E will navigate to the help center. | |
Feb 13, 2017 at 22:42 | comment | added | Braiam |
Select a random post in the site and type [help/on-topic] :P
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Feb 13, 2017 at 21:35 | history | edited | UndoMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
It should generalize.
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Feb 13, 2017 at 20:59 | history | answered | UndoMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |