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###This isn't entirely on the team.

This isn't entirely on the team.

###Some of this seems to be an issue with the choice of wording or the result of a language difference.

Some of this seems to be an issue with the choice of wording or the result of a language difference.

As the person Pawal's "help link" comment was directed at, I do want to say that it felt incredibly dismissive and like my concerns, as a frequent Meta goer and someone who honestly tries to help new users who come to Meta with questions, just didn't matter. Tim's response on the same post, offering an alternative that did fit what the team wanted to do while still giving me something more usable felt a lot better and pretty quickly made me feel more like my opinion wasn't just being dismissed because "that's how SO wants it." Comments like Tim's feel much more inviting and open. – Kendra

 

@Kendra, we never want users to feel dismissed. FWIW, I don't want to speak for Pawel, but I think at least some of the tonal difference you're seeing may be a language issue. Pawel's English is great for a non-native speaker, but I can see places where the phrasing may come off as less collaborative than Tim or I might. – Jaydles♦

###Some of these really do just feel like writing off what we say.

Some of these really do just feel like writing off what we say.

###This isn't entirely on the team.

###Some of this seems to be an issue with the choice of wording or the result of a language difference.

As the person Pawal's "help link" comment was directed at, I do want to say that it felt incredibly dismissive and like my concerns, as a frequent Meta goer and someone who honestly tries to help new users who come to Meta with questions, just didn't matter. Tim's response on the same post, offering an alternative that did fit what the team wanted to do while still giving me something more usable felt a lot better and pretty quickly made me feel more like my opinion wasn't just being dismissed because "that's how SO wants it." Comments like Tim's feel much more inviting and open. – Kendra

 

@Kendra, we never want users to feel dismissed. FWIW, I don't want to speak for Pawel, but I think at least some of the tonal difference you're seeing may be a language issue. Pawel's English is great for a non-native speaker, but I can see places where the phrasing may come off as less collaborative than Tim or I might. – Jaydles♦

###Some of these really do just feel like writing off what we say.

This isn't entirely on the team.

Some of this seems to be an issue with the choice of wording or the result of a language difference.

As the person Pawal's "help link" comment was directed at, I do want to say that it felt incredibly dismissive and like my concerns, as a frequent Meta goer and someone who honestly tries to help new users who come to Meta with questions, just didn't matter. Tim's response on the same post, offering an alternative that did fit what the team wanted to do while still giving me something more usable felt a lot better and pretty quickly made me feel more like my opinion wasn't just being dismissed because "that's how SO wants it." Comments like Tim's feel much more inviting and open. – Kendra

@Kendra, we never want users to feel dismissed. FWIW, I don't want to speak for Pawel, but I think at least some of the tonal difference you're seeing may be a language issue. Pawel's English is great for a non-native speaker, but I can see places where the phrasing may come off as less collaborative than Tim or I might. – Jaydles♦

Some of these really do just feel like writing off what we say.

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I agree there's an issue here, though I'm not sure it's entirely on the team or even remotely intended. Some of this feels like users provoking the team, and some of it feels like poor word choice or other language related issues. While there's definitely some things here that need fixed, there are also some things that I think we all should try to keep an open mind about.


  

Because we don't answer immediately does not mean we're not listening. It's possible we launch with white and continue to test iterations. Kurtis BeaversKurtis Beavers

@Kendra, we never want users to feel dismissed. FWIW, I don't want to speak for Pawel, but I think at least some of the tonal difference you're seeing may be a language issue. Pawel's English is great for a non-native speaker, but I can see places where the phrasing may come off as less collaborative than Tim or I might. – Jaydles♦Jaydles♦

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  I agree there's an issue here, though I'm not sure it's entirely on the team or even remotely intended. Some of this feels like users provoking the team, and some of it feels like poor word choice or other language related issues. While there's definitely some things here that need fixed, there are also some things that I think we all should try to keep an open mind about.


 

Because we don't answer immediately does not mean we're not listening. It's possible we launch with white and continue to test iterations. Kurtis Beavers

@Kendra, we never want users to feel dismissed. FWIW, I don't want to speak for Pawel, but I think at least some of the tonal difference you're seeing may be a language issue. Pawel's English is great for a non-native speaker, but I can see places where the phrasing may come off as less collaborative than Tim or I might. – Jaydles♦

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I agree there's an issue here, though I'm not sure it's entirely on the team or even remotely intended. Some of this feels like users provoking the team, and some of it feels like poor word choice or other language related issues. While there's definitely some things here that need fixed, there are also some things that I think we all should try to keep an open mind about.

 

Because we don't answer immediately does not mean we're not listening. It's possible we launch with white and continue to test iterations. Kurtis Beavers

@Kendra, we never want users to feel dismissed. FWIW, I don't want to speak for Pawel, but I think at least some of the tonal difference you're seeing may be a language issue. Pawel's English is great for a non-native speaker, but I can see places where the phrasing may come off as less collaborative than Tim or I might. – Jaydles♦

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It's also worth noting that Kurtis' next comment on that answer helps point to the fact the team isn't trying to be dismissive, and that the changes requested might well be made later:

Because we don't answer immediately does not mean we're not listening. It's possible we launch with white and continue to test iterations. Kurtis Beavers

This extra comment really does, in my mind, help show that the team is listening, and either may be wording things in such a way that people are misinterpreting them, or (as I believe and Tim's answer seems to indicate) the team was overwhelmed and trying to respond to everything, leading to responses given with high tension that are long and may leave out important information. Such information could include, as in this example, that the team is open to testing a different color after the first release. The addition of this comment, which immediately follows the previous one, makes the first comment feel a lot more useful to me.

Now, consider this example:

Now, consider this example:

It's also worth noting that Kurtis' next comment on that answer helps point to the fact the team isn't trying to be dismissive, and that the changes requested might well be made later:

Because we don't answer immediately does not mean we're not listening. It's possible we launch with white and continue to test iterations. Kurtis Beavers

This extra comment really does, in my mind, help show that the team is listening, and either may be wording things in such a way that people are misinterpreting them, or (as I believe and Tim's answer seems to indicate) the team was overwhelmed and trying to respond to everything, leading to responses given with high tension that are long and may leave out important information. Such information could include, as in this example, that the team is open to testing a different color after the first release. The addition of this comment, which immediately follows the previous one, makes the first comment feel a lot more useful to me.

Now, consider this example:

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