Timeline for Is there a better mediation method to help lift their question ban?
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Jul 9, 2023 at 15:16 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | "im sorry if i dont believe in deleting a question is right. Especially when there is a huge button staring at new users "Ask Question"" - this is actually a complete non sequitur. Along similar lines: Supermarkets exist. This is not a reason to buy whatever food you like and then keep it lying around the house if and when it goes moldy. | |
Jul 9, 2023 at 15:12 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | " is that casual askers ask a question at that time and walk away after asking and don't take the time to double/triple check with the guidelines of the board for a perfect question" - and we should not by any means reward this, because such conduct is antithetical to the goals of the site. "mods should realize that new users have no chance." Many, but certainly not all, new users "have no chance" - because they fundamentally want Stack Overflow to be something that it is not. People who want a help desk should seek one, not try to change how non-help-desk sites work so they become help desks. | |
Mar 8, 2017 at 21:20 | comment | added | Kyle Strand | @DeerSpotter What do you mean by "stalking"? I feel like I understand the gist of what you're trying to say, but I really don't understand that choice of words. | |
Jan 7, 2017 at 2:31 | comment | added | BoltClock Mod | "Almost feels like this site was designed to stalk people and if not to become a stalker to succeed. – DeerSpotter" Anyone else see the irony in this? No? Just me? OK... | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 22:00 | comment | added | user4639281 | Trust me, the community is very much trying to get that button moved to a different place. Deletion, closure, up and down votes, editing, etc. are all appropriate in given circumstances, and inappropriate in others. You're being far to vague with your arguments for them to be of any value. It's up to you to read the manual before attempting to use a product or service, and if you don't then the consequences are on you. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:58 | comment | added | DeerSpotter | @TinyGiant im sorry if i dont believe in deleting a question is right. Especially when there is a huge button staring at new users "Ask Question" | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:56 | comment | added | user4639281 | "Don't answer questions that have already been answered elsewhere. Yeah, you might earn a couple of points of reputation, but, because you are duplicating content, you are actually making the internet worse. Why? Because that answer might be true today, but as technology changes, it might not be true tomorrow." This isn't a heavily debated topic. Everyone else seems to be in agreement. You can't fathom that you might be wrong, that's why it seems heavily debated to you. @DeerSpotter | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:55 | comment | added | DeerSpotter | you all should be ashamed of yourselfs, please remember OP's post, and remember my question was inline of the post. I did my research and posted a response in the best way that could actually help the user. Nobody else posted a actual solution, because you're all afraid of downvotes. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:53 | comment | added | DeerSpotter | @TinyGiant whats breaking the rules when you answer someones question? Especially if it is right? SHOW me where i would be breaking the rules? IF i go to the unanswered and actually answer stuff instead of deleting the questions, imagine that maybe once this wont be a heavily debated topic. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:51 | comment | added | rene | @DeerSpotter I know nothing. And I and others helped the OP with answers and comments, useful info for an OP that makes an honest attempt to learn from their mistakes. And I do that day in, day out, week in, week out, year in, year out. But I simply don't respond well to whining. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:42 | comment | added | user4639281 | @DeerSpotter I'm fairly certain that your answer is heavily downvoted because it doesn't actually attempt to provide a solution (unless you call suggesting the user break the rules to get out of jail a solution), and is mostly just a "me too" comment posted as an answer. It is also a rant which intends to insult a great many users who spend a lot of volunteer time keeping this site clean and useful. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:42 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | @DeerSpotter - or perhaps if it is completely off-base. Funny you don't seem to be able to consider that your POV is wrong. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:41 | comment | added | DeerSpotter | @rene if you see the downvotes on my answer below, believe when i tell you. No answer gets downvoted so hard like that unless it speaks volume of truth. Im not some scumbag idiot, you can see on my profile i know stuff. i deserve to be part of the community just like you. You guys are downvoting the answer i left because you guys have no real answer to the fellow above. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:38 | comment | added | rene | @DeerSpotter we disagree there, we have the tour, the help center, faq at best you missed a couple of chances ... | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:35 | comment | added | DeerSpotter | @rene i never said to circumvent the rules, only to assume the that rules arent here to help and thus becasue of those rules mods should realize that new users have no chance. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:29 | comment | added | JukEboX | @rene I think what DeerSpotter is trying to say is that casual askers ask a question at that time and walk away after asking and don't take the time to double/triple check with the guidelines of the board for a perfect question. And even if they did then who would be able to edit their question to get a better meta score or help get someone out of the ban? | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:22 | comment | added | rene | @DeerSpotter isn't that a bit the world up-side down? So casual askers don't have to time to keep up with the rules but in the mean time it is expected that I answer all that badly researched, unclear mud? Isn't it impolite when you're somewhere new to simply assume there are no rules? | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:08 | comment | added | DeerSpotter | @JukEboX you have a great point. Casual askers don't have a hidden agenda, we dont have time to keep up with rules. We ask something simple that then for some reason mods just delete or revise on us. Almost feels like this site was designed to stalk people and if not to become a stalker to succeed. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:08 | comment | added | Oded StaffMod | Not correct. Your question ban means you cannot post questions. You can still post answers, unless you are in an answer ban too. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 21:06 | comment | added | JukEboX | according to the ban you cannot post questions OR answers. So answering questions is not an option. Also trolling to edits for grammer, format, etc seems like those in the ban need to be constantly competing with everyone else on new questions to get their score up which seems ridiculous for the casual question asker. | |
Jan 6, 2017 at 20:53 | history | answered | OdedStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |