Timeline for Should people who've never asked or answered a question for C be allowed to review C documentation changes?
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Dec 9, 2016 at 23:54 | comment | added | Braiam | I wouldn't trust the so called "community consensus" Trilarion. First, it goes against a core principle of SE: collaborative editing. It's so ingrained in the system, that SE basically tell you to "get off" if you don't like your posts being edited. Second, is too volatile. Not even a year ago everyone was agreeing with updating someone else answer. The only dissenting opinion was not popular (not even one upvote) | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 22:57 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @PeterCordes There is some tag filtering in the review queues. The filter function right to the review queue name let's you specify three tags of your choice and Braiam also proposed to automatically propose useful tags for the filter. | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 22:48 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @Braiam It definitely helps but if you look into the recent discussion and the many discussions linked therein you see that the community consensus seems to be that for reviewing changes in Q&A content knowledge is not strictly required because every change to the content is forbidden anyway. So I guess the requirement is to recognize when content is changed. Not so trivial sometimes. Also, Documentation is a completely different field. There, because it's much more collaborative, content knowledge would be quite important, but we don't really require it with the low rep threshold. Hmmm... | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 17:56 | comment | added | Braiam | "Unlike Q&A where no expert knowledge is required for reviewing" ugh... and then we complain when they accept seemly small but critical edits that fundamentally change the answer. | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 17:48 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @Frank: We don't have enough data for the Docs queue in particular. However, I think we can use Suggested Edit reviews to get at the same sort of insights. I'm looking at that data now. I hope to report some analysis next week. | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 17:42 | comment | added | Frank | @Jon One thing I'd worry about with data from Docs review queue is truncation. I can't get a review in edgewise in the R tag since the tag-agnostic queue-sitters move too fast, so people like me won't be represented in the data and might be forgotten when weighing changes to the review system. Anyway, just a thought. | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 14:21 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | I think tag-score is a lot more relevant than total rep. If the review system wanted me to review some changes to C# documentation, my choices would be to skip it, or just check the spelling and grammar and mostly assume that the code was good. Obviously I would skip it, and probably be presented with a Javascript review; another language I know little about and have never used. This is why I don't use the review system; my time is much better spent manually "reviewing" recently-active asm / SIMD / C/C++ / etc. questions than on trying to decide anything about stuff I don't know about. | |
Dec 9, 2016 at 8:11 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @JonEricson Good to hear that you had the same idea and that you will gather data and work on something along these lines. For example you could try to mutually correlate rep (tag score) of editor, average rep (tag score) of reviewers (weighted by their votes), rejection rate, rollback rate, and voting to extract a possible dependence of review quality on rep or tag score of editor/reviewer. If you can establish that review quality is positively correlated with rep/tag score it's probably easy to get some kind of dynamically adaptive threshold to ensure proposed changes do not get piled up. | |
Dec 8, 2016 at 15:04 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | I was thinking about this very approach after sleeping on the question. I'm really not too concerned with response time as much as proposed changes getting piled up in review. Now that we have audits I can probably test the assumption that higher-reputation users and people who know a tag are more careful. Some of this data is public, but not all of what we'd need. Internally, we have a lot more data, so I'll see what I can come up with. | |
Dec 8, 2016 at 9:16 | history | answered | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 3.0 |