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I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subject are already well known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not onceonce, but twicetwice and survived a first post reviewfirst post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-askedre-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.

I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subject are already well known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not once, but twice and survived a first post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.

I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subject are already well known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not once, but twice and survived a first post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.

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I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subjectthis subject are already well knownwell known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implicationsunclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not once, but twice and survived a first post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.

I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subject are already well known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not once, but twice and survived a first post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.

I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subject are already well known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not once, but twice and survived a first post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.

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I was the moderator who applied the review ban here. I'll try to outline my thinking although my thoughts on this subject are already well known.

In my view the flaws in this deeply flawed question go far beyond what would be considered a reasonable edit. The only way to make this as it stood during review into a decent question was to completely rework almost the whole question to the point where a fixed question and the original question would be almost unrecognisable as connected. That still applies even disregarding the unclear wording of the triage labels and opaque implications of the "requires editing" triage option. The question itself was so bad that several people believed it to be spam, which was how I came across it in the first place. (I didn't agree with that judgement, I think it's just a severely misguided question author but that's besides the point).

In total I banned 7 people for the reviews on that one question - it went through triage not once, but twice and survived a first post review too. To make matters worse it was then re-asked, presumably on the basis of a lack of answers. I don't have access to stats on how many people skipped it in H&I, but I'd wager it was non-zero. That's a whole lot of wasted effort that I believe could have been avoided if the initial triage process had gone "unsalvagable->should be closed->off topic->questions seeking debugging help..."

Without mod messaging (which leaves a permanent annotation on your account and has much longer term impact) there's no way for me to give feedback on the review process other than through short bans. There's no point anyone seeing bad reviews and sitting on them - that will only lead to an acceptance of incorrect reviewing and a decline in the SNR of the H&I queue which triage ultimately feeds.

In short I don't want this to be a major deterrent to reviewing and hope you'll see it as constructive feedback through the only feedback channel open.