Timeline for Valid reasons for a new moderator unfreezing his inactive room?
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Jan 18, 2021 at 12:05 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Nov 25, 2016 at 10:39 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | "...originally created it in protest after being repeatedly antagonistic towards members of an existing room because he was not made a room owner..." Sounds like a fair solution to me. Unfreezing the room is probably nothing really serious. Does one need to be a moderator for it? I guess this post is effectively just advertisement for this room. | |
Nov 24, 2016 at 15:23 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | That room would have been unfrozen by a moderator if, as a regular user, Aaron had asked for it to be unfrozen. The only thing that's changed is that now he can do it himself. It's really not worth raising a big thing about something so minor. | |
Nov 24, 2016 at 14:50 | history | reopened |
David Arenburg Glorfindel HaveNoDisplayName Andras Deak -- Слава Україні Cath |
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Nov 24, 2016 at 9:35 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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Nov 23, 2016 at 20:57 | comment | added | user4639281 | For anyone wondering about "The Conversation" (or one of them) that led to the creation of this other room, start reading here it goes on for a while. I'll let the users interested in reading this draw their own conclusions on the whole matter. IMO, while it is part of the reason I did not vote for said candidate, I think this whole meta question is unnecessary. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 20:01 | vote | accept | CommunityBot | ||
Nov 23, 2016 at 19:59 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | OK, this is just getting silly. Please go for a walk or something, buy a turkey, make some eggnog. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 19:58 | history | closed |
Paulie_D Cody GrayMod Shog9Mod |
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Nov 23, 2016 at 19:51 | history | edited | user559633 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
closing question because Shog9 is right -- this is really unimportant
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Nov 23, 2016 at 19:50 | comment | added | user559633 | @BSMP No, it's legitimate concern and definitively not trolling. I know Aaron "IRL" and care about him. Anyway! The time spent responding to people because I, for some reason, opened a meta about this incredibly unimportant topic was the push I needed to take a look at my time budget and my lack of restraint regarding ~~internet stuff~~. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 19:43 | review | Close votes | |||
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Nov 23, 2016 at 18:33 | comment | added | user559633 | @Pekka웃 It's not bringing up this history. The question is intentionally scoped because ~~e-drama~~ is time consuming. We're pretty far down the comment chain and I believe everything that can be said about it has already been stated in triplicate. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 18:21 | comment | added | Pekka |
Is that a fair reduction of what is being discussed? No. so basically you have a history with this specific mod (that I can't comment on, I don't know either of you nor did I vote for Aaron) and you're using an entirely harmless moderator action to bring up that history?
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Nov 23, 2016 at 18:20 | comment | added | Clive | Yeah, have a load of comments with that info been deleted or something? For those of us who missed it, can someone expand on what this travesty actually is?? Or do we need to have been in a particular chat room at a particular time to understand why these guys don't like each other? | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 18:06 | comment | added | BSMP | I honestly can't tell what you're trying to imply is wrong here. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 17:50 | answer | added | rene | timeline score: 33 | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:52 | comment | added | user559633 | If he created a new room, would that be an issue? Of course not. Is that a fair reduction of what is being discussed? No. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:52 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | Post an answer, eh @Stijn? | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:50 | comment | added | user247702 | @tristan You haven't. It's a yes-no question, and I'm not seeing a "yes" or a "no". | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:46 | comment | added | user559633 | @Stijn I'm sorry if you feel that way, but I believe that I answered it directly. The question, as you stated it, is not a fair representation of what's being discussed. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:42 | comment | added | user247702 | @tristan I believe you're avoiding my question. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:42 | comment | added | user559633 | @Stijn I believe that you're skipping the contextual details that make this a distinct issue. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:39 | comment | added | user247702 | Apparently my light-hearted comment was swiftly removed, so here's attempt #2: if he had just created a new room, would you have cared then? I don't think so. This is a non-issue. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 16:25 | answer | added | Shog9Mod | timeline score: 85 | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 15:51 | comment | added | Heretic Monkey | I would really love to see a different moderator/employee answer this question... | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 15:10 | comment | added | amon | @davidism Yes, and the same mod who manually froze that room would later unfreeze it. After that, the room was automatically frozen for inactivity which was then reverted by Aaron Hall as discussed here. So, why did that first mod decide that the room was OK after all and should be unfrozen? Can you link to the “multiple warnings” and any public discussion on the original freezing & unfreezing? So far, I'm unable to find any references. I want to believe, but I won't believe source-less accusations. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:51 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @davidism: Ah, I wasn't aware of that history. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:47 | comment | added | davidism | @Cerbrus it was also manually frozen at some point before that, and the user received multiple warnings from mods for why they were using the room (and other rooms). It's not the room itself so much as all the history around it. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:46 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @tristan: It was frozen due to inactivity. Why not unfreeze it if users plan on using the room? | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:42 | comment | added | amon | This is an utter non-issue. Sure, it looks weird. But even as a non-mod, they could have started a new room with similar contents or asked a mod to unfreeze the room. I once asked to unfreeze a low-volume room with very sporadic conversations, and it was no issue at all. Framing the unfreezing as a violation of site policies is misleading – rooms are automatically frozen if no human posts there for some time. It's not like the freezing was a ban that was now being circumvented. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:38 | comment | added | Servy | @tristan Saying it was closed because of "site policies" is begging the question. What site policies did it violate to merit it being frozen? Like I said, I don't support the mod taking the action, but I'm just curious if you care because the mod unfroze a room he owned, or because the room actually shouldn't be unfrozen. I care about the former too, but nobody has yet given me a reason to care about the latter, and if the room actually does merit being unfrozen I only care a little bit about the owner being the one to do it. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:33 | comment | added | user559633 | @Servy The room was frozen because of site policies. The role of a moderator is to employ said policies and to use the new permissions to maintain the site (with an implicit goal of serving others). Actions such as these, especially in its expediency and immediacy, call the motivations of a moderator into question. Pre-existing concerns about user behavior act as compounding factors in this case. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:25 | comment | added | Servy | Not that I really support the mod taking the action that they did, but why do we care? Why is there a problem with a room existing that nobody uses, where one mod posts questions to himself that nobody ever looks at? What was the reason the room was frozen in the first place? | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 14:20 | comment | added | davidism | The entire reason that room exists is because of the user's decline in behavior over about six months that finally got them kicked out of a different room. Then it was sustained with a similar title and tags with content-less, sporadic messages for months. This development doesn't inspire hope that the new mod's decision making process has improved. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 12:56 | comment | added | Cerbrus | From a quick look through the transcripts, the room was only ever a "dumping place" for a couple of feeds. Other than that, there really hasn't been much activity at all. Out of 1178 messages in the 1.5 years the room existed, 753 were posted by the room's owner. | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 12:48 | comment | added | Cerbrus | First meta question about a new moderator: within 24 hours. Is this a record? :D | |
Nov 23, 2016 at 12:43 | history | edited | Glorfindel |
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Nov 23, 2016 at 12:41 | history | asked | user559633 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |