Timeline for Do we need good, concrete examples in the "Be Nice" Category?
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Sep 28, 2016 at 20:46 | comment | added | Keith Nicholas | no one got stuck working out what level to give certain abilities to. Its not really that complicated. In one of the Questions linked to by Petter there was already some pretty good examples of language you'd instantly recognize from SO that has much better ways of saying it. | |
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Sep 28, 2016 at 5:51 | comment | added | user663031 | Understood, but your question as stated is "should we add examples to the be nice page". Few people would object on principle to adding useful information to the page, but we're going to get stuck when we try to figure out what examples to add to the page, because that will require us to actually adjudicate what we want to consider to be nice or not, and except for really egregious examples involving profanity and ad hominem attack (which are already covered), I can't see a consensus forming even around something as simple as whether "Did you even read the manual??" is rude. | |
Sep 28, 2016 at 5:27 | comment | added | Keith Nicholas | Actually my example shows that if you can't tell the difference between what is belittling and what isn't, then a guideline is useful. They aren't rules, they are a guideline, no lawyers needed. Examples of how you can improve your language.... there's already links above which have some good examples. Flagging is still there, but it's very after the fact kind of response. This isn't about enforcement but guidance. | |
Sep 28, 2016 at 5:20 | comment | added | user663031 | Your comment embodies the essential problem with this approach. So you are planning to define a sentence as rude if it contains the word "even", but not if it doesn't, as rude if there are two question marks, but not if there is one? What team of lawyers is going to parse the new rules and apply them? As mentioned in my answer and elsewhere in the thread, we already have a perfectly good mechanism called flagging. Do you think that system is somehow dysfunctional? | |
Sep 28, 2016 at 5:16 | comment | added | Keith Nicholas | Yes, a specific proposal to edit the be nice page to show examples of how you can drop language that isn't necessary and can be perceived as belittling and hostile. The problem with your answer is you dropped words out of the example to make it ok. "Did you even read the help??" conveys a slightly different message that isn't necessary, saying "did you read the help? It mentions x x...y....z" is fine. One is belittling, one isn't, While people do need to be thick skinned, we should try and raise the bar where we can | |
Sep 28, 2016 at 5:00 | history | answered | user663031 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |