Timeline for What is currently being done to keep plagiarists at bay?
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Jul 29, 2016 at 13:21 | comment | added | LinkBerest - SO sold our work |
@bruffalobill Turnitin is notoriously bad at matching programming code; indeed this is a really hard problem because automated means have a hard time knowing for i in foo: is common and would not need citation - think of it as having to content check for documentation in multiple languages (sometimes within the same post, like mixing Python and R or adding SQL). Not saying it isn't possible just that it could be difficult
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Jul 29, 2016 at 4:32 | comment | added | silvergasp | At my university whenever you submit a paper or an assignment, you submit it to a service called turnitin. Turnitin searches across all publicly available academic databases, all past submissions, and a huge database of online sites as well. One of the most useful features of something like this is that you can see where there is a high similarity and exactly what source it is from. A tool like this could potentially prevent an edit being made to documentation if there is a high similarity rate with no references.This could help to educate users attempting to plagiarize without punishment? | |
Jul 28, 2016 at 12:46 | comment | added | Alon Eitan | @Undo What do you think abou this example It's a copy&paste from bguiz.github.io/js-standards/angularjs/controllers | |
Jul 27, 2016 at 10:09 | comment | added | Andy Wilkinson | I've done as suggested here and the flag was marked as helpful a few days ago, however the plagiarised content wasn't removed. What should I do now? | |
Jul 24, 2016 at 4:23 | comment | added | jscs | Maybe I'm just getting unlucky with what I review (I hope so) but better than half of what I see is copypasta. I just found one where the code had been pasted but the comments were removed. I don't know how you can get more unhelpful than that. Argh! | |
Jul 23, 2016 at 15:27 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | @Braiam You let users of your work pick any of the licenses you offer it under. All the licenses combine (if one says "no commercial usage" but one allows it, then commercial usage is allowed) and you enforce the combination. | |
Jul 23, 2016 at 15:25 | comment | added | Braiam | @ArtOfCode but, how can I enforce a license over my content in case they are not compatible or outright contradictory? | |
Jul 23, 2016 at 15:23 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | @Braiam You can have your own work under ten million different licenses if you like. You're the copyright owner, you can do literally anything that isn't illegal with it. | |
Jul 23, 2016 at 15:22 | comment | added | Braiam | @ArtOfCode but that doesn't mean that you can have your own work under two licenses, right? | |
Jul 23, 2016 at 15:12 | comment | added | ArtOfCode | @Braiam You do not need to attribute yourself. You own the copyright to the original work and therefore can do what you like with it. Self-plagiarism is only a serious thing in academia and scientific journals. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:34 | comment | added | Servy | @Braiam The licence of that content wouldn't give you the right to re-post it, but since it is your content, that you own, you have the right to post it. You don't need to leverage the licence to post the content, so it's not a problem. Remember, licences in general don't revoke ownership, they only ever give people using the licence's content some rights with respect to it; they don't take away the original owner's rights to that content. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:30 | comment | added | Braiam | @Servy actually, the proper attribution doesn't mention if you are indeed the author what should happen. Example, you wrote the docs for Vainilla, and now you are copying the same content on SO, you still have to attribute yourself for that (in case of the original license even allowed yourself to do that). | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:22 | comment | added | Servy | @DavidG meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/328896/… | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:11 | comment | added | DavidG | Also, should I attribute my own posts? Once I've posted them on SO, they kinda no longer belong to me right? | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:11 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @Servy brings up a good point. There is indeed a section in the help center on proper attribution. And it says: "Do not copy the complete text of external sources; instead, use their words and ideas to support your own. And always give proper credit to the author and site where you found the text, including a direct link to it." So that seems like pretty compelling evidence that copying and pasting answers directly from Q&A into Documentation is not acceptable, even if you provide attribution. Pretty standard. Fair use != shameless stealing. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:07 | comment | added | DavidG | @Servy I know that, but this is documentation specific. Should attribution be handled any differently here? Perhaps it could become more of a first-class citizen for example? | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:01 | comment | added | Undo Mod | That's exactly what I think, @BradLarson. This is a moderation problem first, and a content/improvement-request problem second. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:01 | comment | added | Brad Larson Mod | I wonder if we shouldn't just have people use "other" flags on the posts on Stack Overflow that are being plagiarized by people in Documentation, since moderators don't see Documentation flags. If someone's plagiarizing content to Documentation, I think we should be issuing plagiarism warnings and suspensions to main SO accounts. They're gaining SO reputation for this, after all. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:00 | comment | added | Servy | @DavidG The help center has a section on proper attribution. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 17:00 | comment | added | DavidG | @BradLarson So copying content from an answer and saying "this comes from ..." is OK? | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:58 | comment | added | Brad Larson Mod | @Suragch - Pulling from your own content shouldn't be a problem, you wrote it originally. It's copying the words of another without attribution that's the problem. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:52 | comment | added | Suragch | How about copying from my own SO answers? While trying out Documentation, in several of my examples I have used content from some of my previous answers. While I modify it to be more applicable to Documentation, a number of my examples are essentially the same as things I wrote in SO answers. Should I be making new examples? | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:43 | comment | added | zero323 | Do I miss something here? There is seems to be no way to raise a flag on new topic :/ stackoverflow.com/documentation/proposed/changes/30621 | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:42 | comment | added | Undo Mod | @CodyGray They're shown publicly; I can see them in an incognito window. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:41 | comment | added | Undo Mod | @JoshCaswell i.sstatic.net/qjwrK.gif; they're shown publicly and aren't in the mod queue anywhere I can see. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:41 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | I flagged it for diamond moderator attention a couple of hours ago. We'll see if a staff member handles it or not. Like Josh, I definitely remember seeing it claimed that these flags go directly to staff, and it wasn't in chat, it was here on Meta. (As for being shown publicly, I think maybe they're only shown publicly to you if you're the one who raises them? Not sure, don't have a sock puppet.) | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:38 | comment | added | jscs | I was told in chat that those flags go to staff right now. Not sure if that's correct, though; I haven't actually used one. | |
Jul 22, 2016 at 16:34 | history | answered | UndoMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |