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At its core, the purpose of voting for a post is so that someone can look at that score and know if that question is a waste of their time or not. That's how the feature is supposed to work. A single number serves that purpose adequately; if someone wants to know more, they can click on it.

That the person making the post might use a downvote as a signal to improve their question is a nice side-benefit, when it happens. But it is not the purpose of voting.

So let's not over-complicate this process. Doing so will lead to either fewer downvotes or people picking downvote reasons arbitrarily.

If someone wants to help improve a question, they can post a comment. But that's not the point of voting, so we shouldn't force people to pick a reason just to downvote.


The goal of this idea is to help encourage the OP of a question to fix problems in it. Which means that the downvoting reasons ought to be sufficient to let the OP know how to do that. So let's look at them:

  • Question is unclear

I'm not sure how this is more helpful than close-voting it as unclear. We're not talking about the MVCE form of unclear (that would be "Needs more info"). We're talking about the general "what you said doesn't make sense" form of unclear.

The OP clearly thought that they were clear. If the OP is going to correct their post, then they need to know what specifically was unclear.

  • Lack of Quality

OK, so how would the OP resolve that? What form of "quality" is lacking in the question? Without knowing, the OP can't make repairs.

  • Lack of Research

Right, but do you really expect the OP to do the research just because you downvoted them? And even if they wanted to... would they know where to look?

  • Missing perspective on subject

So how will the OP gain perspective on the subject without being told what is missing from their current perspective?

  • False assertions

How will the OP know which assertions are false without being told specifically?

  • Needs more info

Thus far, this is the only one that might be useful. But ultimately, it's no more useful to the OP than a "post an MCVE" comment. If their question lacked other kinds of information, then this downvote reason won't explain what's missing.

There's a reason why SO doesn't have a "canned comment" feature built into it. Canned comments are almost always useless for getting a question fixed. Sure, a "post an MCVE" can make one appear. But outside of a few very specific requests like that, canned comments aren't specific enough to actually tell the OP what needs fixing.

Canned comments primarily make the poster feel better. They don't actually get the question fixed.

At its core, the purpose of voting for a post is so that someone can look at that score and know if that question is a waste of their time or not. That's how the feature is supposed to work. A single number serves that purpose adequately; if someone wants to know more, they can click on it.

That the person making the post might use a downvote as a signal to improve their question is a nice side-benefit, when it happens. But it is not the purpose of voting.

So let's not over-complicate this process. Doing so will lead to either fewer downvotes or people picking downvote reasons arbitrarily.

If someone wants to help improve a question, they can post a comment. But that's not the point of voting, so we shouldn't force people to pick a reason just to downvote.

At its core, the purpose of voting for a post is so that someone can look at that score and know if that question is a waste of their time or not. That's how the feature is supposed to work. A single number serves that purpose adequately; if someone wants to know more, they can click on it.

That the person making the post might use a downvote as a signal to improve their question is a nice side-benefit, when it happens. But it is not the purpose of voting.

So let's not over-complicate this process. Doing so will lead to either fewer downvotes or people picking downvote reasons arbitrarily.

If someone wants to help improve a question, they can post a comment. But that's not the point of voting, so we shouldn't force people to pick a reason just to downvote.


The goal of this idea is to help encourage the OP of a question to fix problems in it. Which means that the downvoting reasons ought to be sufficient to let the OP know how to do that. So let's look at them:

  • Question is unclear

I'm not sure how this is more helpful than close-voting it as unclear. We're not talking about the MVCE form of unclear (that would be "Needs more info"). We're talking about the general "what you said doesn't make sense" form of unclear.

The OP clearly thought that they were clear. If the OP is going to correct their post, then they need to know what specifically was unclear.

  • Lack of Quality

OK, so how would the OP resolve that? What form of "quality" is lacking in the question? Without knowing, the OP can't make repairs.

  • Lack of Research

Right, but do you really expect the OP to do the research just because you downvoted them? And even if they wanted to... would they know where to look?

  • Missing perspective on subject

So how will the OP gain perspective on the subject without being told what is missing from their current perspective?

  • False assertions

How will the OP know which assertions are false without being told specifically?

  • Needs more info

Thus far, this is the only one that might be useful. But ultimately, it's no more useful to the OP than a "post an MCVE" comment. If their question lacked other kinds of information, then this downvote reason won't explain what's missing.

There's a reason why SO doesn't have a "canned comment" feature built into it. Canned comments are almost always useless for getting a question fixed. Sure, a "post an MCVE" can make one appear. But outside of a few very specific requests like that, canned comments aren't specific enough to actually tell the OP what needs fixing.

Canned comments primarily make the poster feel better. They don't actually get the question fixed.

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Nicol Bolas
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At its core, the purpose of voting for a post is so that someone can look at that score and know if that question is a waste of their time or not. That's how the feature is supposed to work. A single number serves that purpose adequately; if someone wants to know more, they can click on it.

That the person making the post might use a downvote as a signal to improve their question is a nice side-benefit, when it happens. But it is not the purpose of voting.

So let's not over-complicate this process. Doing so will lead to either fewer downvotes or people picking downvote reasons arbitrarily.

If someone wants to help improve a question, they can post a comment. But that's not the point of voting, so we shouldn't force people to pick a reason just to downvote.