Timeline for When and by whom was [ibm-watson] replaced by [ibm-watson-cognitive]?
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Jun 10, 2016 at 11:30 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @TimPost: Ah. :) I didn't really pick that up from this answer. Perhaps you were just trying to be delicate... | |
Jun 9, 2016 at 18:11 | comment | added | Abtin Forouzandeh | As a long time user of SO and a major advocate for its use within IBM, I find this entire episode extremely disappointing and will have to reconsider my support. Even if I determine that we should continue to engage, you have made my job significantly harder, providing ammo to everyone who raises a not-invented-here argument. This could have been handled much better. | |
Jun 9, 2016 at 6:12 | comment | added | Idan Adar | @TimPost, a similar problem exists with IBM's tag for "mobilefirst". Please see here: meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/comments/355262?noredirect=1 | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 17:09 | comment | added | user50049 | @LightnessRacesinOrbit Precisely. Stop the noise on the input lines, reach out and get that corrected, and then tune things so they work as optimally as they can (much like they would have if we had been involved earlier in the effort to send folks here). Many companies don't realize that we offer help to those that want to send folks to SO, I'm thinking about ways to get that message out more clearly. | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 15:26 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @TimPost: Ooh, eureka moment - the intention is, effectively, to temporarily break the path between the third-party site and the heretofore-would-be-"abused" SO tag "subsite"? Because that makes sense if so... | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 15:09 | comment | added | user50049 | And as far as the amount of work goes, it's really just janitorial by nature and part of what's involved in providing such a big public space. Occasionally, folks are going to make a mess, and the mops need to come out of the closet. Person-wise, it just takes a few minutes to execute, and about half an hour to sanity check; not a whole lot of time on our part and it helps calm the noise for our regulars as well as helps the new folks have a better experience. | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 15:06 | comment | added | user50049 | [2/2] once we finally help them figure out the set that makes the most sense for the site. I'm in contact with them via email now. The end result should be some of their engineers becoming very familiar fixtures on SO through answering questions, some tags being sponsored so folks know it's definitely IBM behind it, and (hopefully) the end to a bunch of pretty off-topic feature requests / bug reports that the ambiguities all around led to. tl;dr - we do this all the time, usually without anyone caring, this was just the biggest instance of it we've seen. | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 15:03 | comment | added | user50049 | @LightnessRacesinOrbit We (occasionally) get a flood of email about off-topic questions where folks trace the origins to third-party sites sending folks to SO in a less-than-optimal way. When we hear about it, we're pretty quick to take action and do whatever's needed to make it, well, optimal. This case isn't really any different than the dozen or so we see each month, except that it's quite a bit bigger. We've done this with Microsoft a few times when the rebranded things and managed to get us some advanced notice. I think IBM is going to be sponsoring some tags, [1/2] | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 13:35 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Lankymart: Paid tags have icons on them. | |
Jun 7, 2016 at 13:09 | comment | added | user692942 | @LightnessRacesinOrbit You know for a fact they are "unpaying"? End of the day there is always going to be a reason SO are "pandering" to them. The whole "Developer Forums" thing is just dirty, they need telling Tim! | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 22:36 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | What he said! Please don't take this to mean that I think none of this should have happened. I'm not here to disagree with anything or to stomp on anyone's hard work. It just seems like a lot of pandering has taken place to an unpaying third-party, which goes against the general "line" that we let third parties be third parties and they have to live within our rules if they want to call us their "support forum". And, as such, this seemed like an odd and broad change given that it was unsponsored. But as long as we know what happened, I suppose that's fine. | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 22:32 | comment | added | Travis J | That is a lot of work, maybe they could you know, purchase a tag icon or something to support all of the time the team seems to have invested in helping with their "developer forum" here on Stack Overflow. | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 19:27 | comment | added | user50049 | To be clear, there's a ton of more specific tags other than 'watson' or 'ibm-watson' that should be applied to the majority of these questions. I'll update more as we get everyone over there up to speed, guidance corrected in a few more places, and everything finally settled. It's just .. a mess. | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 19:25 | comment | added | user50049 | @LightnessRacesinOrbit Quite a bit, they've been fumbling around a bit with 'watson' being all to encompassing when quite a bit should have been specific to the API, and quite a bit .. well .. just shouldn't have been asked. The tags get remapped internally so we don't break anything, we've now set some synonyms (some had already been suggested in order to fix this) are now in place to prevent some of the not-so-good guidance still out in the wild from making them come back. This was a cleanup effort of around 300 questions that 160 people were following, and has been remapped. | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 19:13 | comment | added | alexis | Sounds like the rename was made at IBM's request, to flag the tag as belonging to IBM's cognitive business unit (where Watson belongs). Expect to see all IBM tags trailed by a unit designator. | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 18:11 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | So you're saying that the tag was renamed by moderators/staff? Can you explain in more detail what benefit this brings? The name of the new tag seems really awkward to me. What was wrong with the old one? It seems really odd that this was done quietly, with no announcement on Meta or even a note on the tag's wiki. People's searches will be broken now and they won't even know why. | |
Jun 6, 2016 at 18:10 | history | edited | Lightness Races in Orbit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 6, 2016 at 16:14 | history | answered | user50049 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |