Timeline for How about questions already answered without being duplicates?
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May 28, 2016 at 13:30 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver Well, thanks for confirming that you don't even know the difference between answering and commenting. Just because you put a comment in the answer box doesn't make it an answer to the question. Answers aren't for comments that need more formatting than comments provide, they're for answers to the question. It's specifically against the rules to post comments as answers. Yes, it's possible to post an answer that answers the question, just in a different way than other answers. But you specifically said you were talking about answers that don't answer the question. | |
May 28, 2016 at 11:28 | comment | added | dtech | What also happens often is that different answers provide fundamentally different solutions to a given problem, and some of those solutions can be applicable to other problems as well. And once again, you already have an answer to a question, but you can't really specify it as such, you can only close the question as a duplicate to a question which is NOT actually a duplicate, and you can't really specific the actual answer that applies. It is very surprising that you are still unable to see how "already answered" would make a good addition to "duplicate of". | |
May 28, 2016 at 11:18 | comment | added | dtech | Well, thanks for confirming that you don't even know the difference between answering and commenting. When existing answers are lacking in useful detail people post that as an answer - you can see that everywhere, and there is a good reason for it - because it is an actual answer to a question, not a comment on an answer or a question, because comments are not the proper format to display information - they are limited in length, cannot be edited and revisioned to reflect updates, and can't be properly formatted. Comments are for commenting, not for providing more detailed answers... | |
May 28, 2016 at 1:54 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver Thanks for confirming that you don't even know what you've said yourself. Since apparently you can't be bothered to know what you've said, I'll just have to quote it. Me: "you still need to answer the question for it to be a good answer." You: "Often such posts fill in gaps left from the already existing answers" Me: "that would be a comment, not answer" You: "'should' != 'would' - many times it is not" So you're specifically stating that you're talking about comments posted as answers that don't answer the question but instead post tangentially related information. | |
May 28, 2016 at 0:25 | comment | added | dtech | You keep on stepping up with the absurdities, now you are putting words in my mouth? Keep up the "good work" lol. Or maybe step up with improving your skills in understanding simple logic and common sense. I never meant, said or even attempt to imply that, how you got to such a conclusion is a complete mystery, but hopefully you will humor me. I've actually been quite specific on the subject, but judging by your reactions, "specific" might not be your thing. | |
May 28, 2016 at 0:16 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver You were the one specifically saying that these are posts that aren't answering the question, and you were the one saying that they're off topic tangents. Sounds like you should go read your own comments for the first time, as you clearly haven't done so until now. | |
May 28, 2016 at 0:05 | comment | added | dtech | You are insinuating products of your imagination. I am talking about an answer contained within an already existing on-topic answer to a broader question which is not a practical duplicate. Is it too much to grasp? | |
May 28, 2016 at 0:00 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver So I am saying you continue missing the point hard. The fact remains that you're proposing creating a brand new feature to help support people who are violating the rules and posting content that merits deletion. If someone posts a completely off topic post to a question that doesn't answer that question, but that would actually answer some other question, the solution is to post the answer to the question it actually answers, not to try to close the question as a duplicate of the question it doesn't answer and link to the answer. | |
May 27, 2016 at 23:52 | comment | added | dtech | So I am saying you continue missing the point hard. There are no duplicate questions at hand here, that much should be obvious. Duplicate question is not the same as already answered question, a good answer can easily exist as a part of an answer to a question which is not a duplicate... Sorry if I don't continue repeating that simple concept in the future, but at this point I feel like explaining particle physics to a particle, and I don't like it. | |
May 27, 2016 at 23:39 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver So you're saying that we need to completely re-write how duplicate questions work because some people post non-answers and answers and we need to be able to close questions as duplicates of those non-answers, instead of duplicates of other actual questions with actual answers? No. If actual answers to a question in no way answers a question you're looking at, but it has a non-answer that answers it, then it's just not a duplicate. | |
May 27, 2016 at 23:20 | comment | added | dtech | @Servy - "should" != "would" - many times it is not, and happens to contain information relevant to subsequent questions. Aside from the comment length limit, I actually can recall quite a lot of "addition" answers which have have more upvotes than the accepted answer. But be my guest, walk through all of those and convert them to comments, and don't forget to split the longer ones into consecutive comments. | |
May 27, 2016 at 23:07 | comment | added | Servy | @ddrivet that would be a comment, not answer. | |
May 27, 2016 at 22:33 | comment | added | dtech | Often such posts fill in gaps left from the already existing answers. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:43 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver What does that have to do with this? Yes, you should only post an answer if you have something to add, but you still need to answer the question for it to be a good answer. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:33 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | @ddriver If you have good examples of questions that aren't duplicates but are answered the same way, please add them to my attempt at collecting these. I strongly doubt that there's any significant population of these, but would appreciate counterarguments. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:25 | comment | added | dtech | Not if it is a specific. I mean if all the answers cover the same material, they should be seen as redundant and donwvoted, IMO the only good reason to add an answer to an already answered question is if you have something to add, which might be just it. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:18 | comment | added | Servy | Either all good answers answer the duplicate, in which case there's no reason to link to one in particular, or they don't, and the question shouldn't be closed as a duplicate. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:14 | comment | added | dtech | @Servy - well DO'H welcome to the point, which is to close questions as already answered without being duplicates. It is already answered proficiently, it is not a duplicate, any more answers would be redundant duplicates or copies. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:13 | comment | added | Servy | @ddriver then you shouldn't be closing such questions as duplicates. | |
May 27, 2016 at 21:02 | comment | added | dtech | @Deduplicator - it is about being specific - "how to build a birdhouse" is not a duplicate of "how to hammer a nail" even if the latter fully covers the former. And don't take the figurative example too literally. | |
May 27, 2016 at 20:51 | comment | added | Deduplicator | @ddriver If the narrow question is a duplicate, obviously all of them which deserve an upvote... | |
May 27, 2016 at 20:49 | comment | added | dtech | My point is that a narrow scope question might be entirely covered by an answer to a wider scope question. There might be a number of answers to such a question, so it would be helpful to specify which is the relevant one. | |
May 27, 2016 at 20:46 | history | answered | Servy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |