Timeline for Asker couldn't shape my answer as he saw fit, so he copied it with the edits he wanted anyway
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May 26, 2017 at 14:22 | comment | added | Henry | Yikes, kinda want to throw you a sympathy upvote. | |
May 20, 2016 at 5:18 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | I don't know Scala at all, but I actually like your asnwer. It seems to get to the point more quickly, and is less chatty. I don't think you should have tried to edit Nick's answer so much in the first place. You also shouldn't have removed your upvote on Nick's answer; it's still good. I'm undecided on whether accepting your own rewritten answer is appropriate. I think maybe yes. Anyway, at this point you are being punished for doing it the wrong way. I think downvoting/deleting your answer is an overreaction, but it sounds like you've been overdoing it with edits. | |
May 19, 2016 at 13:31 | comment | added | JonH | @JohnY - Wow end of story I'd say... | |
May 18, 2016 at 19:02 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Copy edited. Used the official name of Stack Overflow - see section "Proper Use of the Stack Exchange Name" in <http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section).
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May 18, 2016 at 17:00 | comment | added | John Y | @samthebest: What I think you are not getting is the fundamental peer-review nature of this site. Lightness Races in Orbit expressed it pretty well already, but I would strengthen the language even further, to make it crystal clear: It doesn't matter if you are omniscient, and literally know everything there is to know about everything. It doesn't matter if you are provably always right about every technical detail. You STILL are not entitled to "correct" or "improve" people's posts to the point that they feel it no longer represents their voice or their intent. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:47 | comment | added | JonH | Will you two kids stop crying and get to work! Take this to chat or some other medium. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:41 | comment | added | Nick Chammas | "You seem to object to that, furthermore you believe by adding that information in some other way (since you are so against it)" - I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot, but to reiterate what everybody's been saying: Nobody is against adding extra information to an answer. What everybody has been saying is that in this case, regarding the particular note about Datasets, the right way to do that is by adding a comment. It's not appropriate as an edit, and it's not enough to merit a whole new answer. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:39 | comment | added | Nick Chammas | I understand your motivation, Sam. You want the accepted answer to be "complete" and have all the relevant information in one place. I get that and I think it's a good goal to aim for. But the way you went about it, as we've been discussing here, was not right. And yes, it was petty of you to remove both your accept and your upvote and essentially duplicate my answer, just because I rolled back your edit. Anyway, I've upvoted your comment on my answer because it adds useful information and -- as everybody's been saying here -- it's the right place to capture that information. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:33 | comment | added | samthebest | @NickChammas Nevermind, your missing the point ... I don't care about the wording or the naming conventions, and I'm sorry about the bug, all I wanted was to include some helpful information all in one place so it's easy for people to Google. You seem to object to that, furthermore you believe by adding that information in some other way (since you are so against it), that I am performing "petty revenge". I'll just start a new thread with a somewhat more specific questions regarding Datasets and we can forget about it. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:14 | comment | added | Nick Chammas | "If you really think I'm on some insane "revenge" rampage to tarnish your name for the rest of eternity by including a single sentence that you could easily verify yourself, then I guess I'll have to create another thread." - No, I don't think that. Including that sentence was just a bad edit. The "petty revenge" I mentioned in my post here was you removing your votes from my answer and creating a duplicate answer. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:11 | comment | added | Nick Chammas | To recap the other two reasons, because you seem to be discounting them: 1. You changed the wording of my sentences just to fit your style, as I brought up again in my post here. The changes were completely irrelevant to the quality of the answer, and just muddied my voice as an author. 2. Though my answer didn't follow Scala style conventions, I actually tested it! When you edited my Python example, you introduced a bug by calling a method that doesn't exist in Spark's Python API. You can pat yourself on the back all you want about improving answers, but that was a careless edit. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:07 | comment | added | samthebest | @NickChammas You don't have to rollback all the edits - you are capable of leaving bits in! | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:07 | comment | added | samthebest | @NickChammas Fine, If you really think I'm on some insane "revenge" rampage to tarnish your name for the rest of eternity by including a single sentence that you could easily verify yourself, then I guess I'll have to create another thread. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:07 | comment | added | Nick Chammas | "If the other people carefully read the edits and the comments they will see it has nothing really to do with style, it all comes down to [the bit about Datasets]." False! As I pointed out in my comment explaining why I rolled back your edit, there were 3 problems with your edit, all of which merited a rollback, not just the bit about Datasets. | |
May 18, 2016 at 16:00 | comment | added | Nick Chammas | "When my edits were rolled back how am I supposed to include the information?" As a comment, like everybody has been telling you, and like I originally suggested. If I don't know enough about Datasets and case classes, then I cannot accept an edit about those things because then I'm on the hook for that information, like @Kendra correctly pointed out. When you add that same information as a comment, people can see that it's your information and can vote on it separately. Highly upvoted comments are always a good source of additional information on answers. | |
May 18, 2016 at 14:37 | comment | added | Kendra | @samthebest You'd be surprised how quickly or easily someone would downvote answers. There are people that downvote great answers to poor questions just because the answer's on a poor question. Do keep in mind, I'm not saying that would happen in this specific case. I'm also not saying your details were wrong in this specific case, as I have no domain knowledge for this one. But it is a good reason to leave a polite comment if you feel some detail should be added, rather than editing the detail in without the original author's approval. | |
May 18, 2016 at 14:33 | comment | added | samthebest | @Kendra a) I very much doubt anyone would ever downvote his answer if it so happened that that particular statement was wrong. b) just by the very nature of that statement if one applies a bit of reasoning, there is negligible probability that the statement is wrong. It would be like if I said "all horses are mammals", are you going to go and find every horse on the planet and check it's a mammal? No it's just probably true, yeah, maybe some culture refers to some lizard as a horse or some edge case or something, but that isn't how reasoning works. | |
May 18, 2016 at 14:27 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | "Please trust me it is true" That is not how this website works. We value peer review, which means you must be willing to accept people validating whether what you think is true actually is true. How can we do that when you bury this information on existing posts that have already been highly upvoted for different content? I think we all appreciate the intent (improving things) but you've got to be more careful how you go about it! There is a good reason that we generally do not encourage fundamental changes to other people's posts. | |
May 18, 2016 at 14:13 | comment | added | Kendra | "...it appears you just do not trust that it is correct information." Which means you shouldn't put those words in the original author's mouth. If you'd left it as a comment, maybe Nick could've done more a bit more research when he had time so he could verify the correctness, and then he can edit it in himself if he feels it's relevant. If you just edit it in and (keeping in mind I'm not saying this is the case) it turns out to be wrong, Nick's the one that would get downvotes for the incorrect statement, not you as the editor. | |
May 18, 2016 at 14:07 | history | answered | samthebest | CC BY-SA 3.0 |