Timeline for Should we burninate the [bioinformatics] tag?
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May 10, 2019 at 1:02 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @Erdinc What are you talking about? What problem is this question demonstrating? You can't downvote a tag, and this question isn't about voting at all. It's requesting the removal of a tag from the system. That request has been declined; the community spoke clearly in favor of keeping the tag. As for your claim that Stack Overflow was founded to enable asking questions on any topic, that is completely false. Stack Overflow was created to enable asking a very specific type of programming question. This is all documented in the tour and the help center. It clearly describes questions not to ask. | |
May 9, 2019 at 18:46 | comment | added | Erdinc Ay | The author of this question is exactly showing the problem, that StackOverflow has in recent years. Questions and Tags are getting voted-down or deleted completely, what was the purpose of StackOverflow when it was founded, to enable asking questions and this on any topic. Currently StackOverflow is facing the same issues like Facebook did 3 years ago, the users are getting frustrated about the situation on the platform. | |
May 9, 2019 at 18:27 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | Stats at the end of featuring: Q: +41/-88. A1 (No) +123/-7. A2 (No) +58/-5. A3 (Yes) +6/-44. A4 (No) +40/-2. A5 (No) +68/-3. A6 (Migrate all questions) 0/-11. A7 (No) +14/-2. The community has voted against burnination. | |
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May 9, 2019 at 18:00 | comment | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine | @Chris_Rands It looks like the community overwhelmingly agrees with you that this tag is upvoted, the request is heavily downvoted and answers saying "no" are highly upvoted. Actually, I think that the fact that there are numerous 10k+ users (like yourself) that are apparently using the tag to find stuff to answer is, in and of itself, a very good reason not to remove it (as I pointed out in my answer - in fact, there are 3 10k+ users that have over 100 answers in the tag). | |
May 9, 2019 at 9:54 | comment | added | Chris_Rands | I am one of the top [bioinformatics] tag answers. I also regularly clean up questions with/without the tag. Do not burinate this, it is a very useful tag for our community where knowledge beyond pure programming is required to answer questions. If there is an issue here it is that we now have our own stack exchange site bioinformatics.stackexchange.com and it's often unclear where questions belong | |
May 9, 2019 at 0:03 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | Eh, I'd not say that @Braiam. There are multiple 5/7 answers that provide enough arguments against burnination, and the community has voted them up. Saying that those are all bad is like an insult to the community. You can always repost a burnination request after it has been [status-*] marked, asking for the decision to be changed citing further evidence. | |
May 8, 2019 at 21:54 | comment | added | Braiam | @ConspicuousCompiler lets dive into that number a bit, the guy has 400k reputation, and yet he managed to be both an RL bioinformatic and not being a top user? Also, remove 9 of those, since one of the question is off topic and the other doesn't even have an MCVE. BTW, I'm a career economist, which sometimes my work title according to my boss is bioinformatic (and he uses me as such, since I work in a medical institute, research deparment), so, aren't my credentials equally valid too? | |
May 8, 2019 at 21:48 | comment | added | Conspicuous Compiler | @Braiam He has 31 points and 10 posts which puts him just barely out of the running of the top list on that page at present. Regardless, I think RL credentials are worth more than SO points in this regard. | |
May 8, 2019 at 21:12 | answer | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine | timeline score: 12 | |
May 8, 2019 at 21:03 | comment | added | Braiam | BTW, this burnination is weak and the arguments against it are weak too. @BhargavRao I would just scrapped this question and asked the user to present his case better. In case someone had a better case, it will be shut down just because it will be a duplicate of this one, not because their case is invalid. | |
May 8, 2019 at 20:39 | comment | added | Braiam | @TimPietzcker Yet konrad isn't even on the top users list of the tag | |
May 8, 2019 at 20:06 | answer | added | mlane | timeline score: -13 | |
May 8, 2019 at 18:49 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | Way more than clear consensus, @terdon. (I think the first of the 55 featured burns up to now where the score has gone below 20 after featuring). But I'd still leave it for the required 24~36 hrs, just to get more views. Also thanks to some real bad caching, seems like this post was [featured] on the CB just a few minutes back, so we still haven't received the views of the entire community at large. | |
May 8, 2019 at 18:46 | comment | added | terdon | @BhargavRao there seems to be a clear consensus in favor of keeping the tag though, right? | |
May 8, 2019 at 16:13 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | There isn't any order as such, @llrs. I've been selecting them based on criteria like, score, age, views, no of answers on the post, no of questions in the tag and so on. The process is detailed here. The answer for "why now" is a bit complicated, and even I don't have a concrete answer. | |
May 8, 2019 at 15:57 | comment | added | llrs | Ok, so it is simply a moderator clean up. Thanks for your time and all of the moderators team !! I was surprised by the revival of the question, because I thought it was settled (I didn't realize of the other burninate requests dates). Is there some post about why this clean up process is going on or on which order are the tags selected? (I might have missed too as I'm no longer as active on SO as I was:) | |
May 8, 2019 at 14:51 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | @llrs there are 387 items in the backlog, out of which 206 have to be featured, decided, acted upon. Given the average time for burninating 1 is usually 1~2 weeks, we essentially have 9 years of work cut out for us. ([like] was burned after 7 years) | |
May 8, 2019 at 12:32 | comment | added | llrs | @BhargavRao Why is this opened again and shown as featured after several years of inactivity? | |
May 8, 2019 at 9:22 | answer | added | Konrad Rudolph | timeline score: 72 | |
May 8, 2019 at 9:18 | answer | added | Max Langhof | timeline score: 41 | |
May 8, 2019 at 8:34 | comment | added | zx8754 | This answer at Should we burninate chemistry? sums up my stand on this post. Please keep the tag. | |
May 8, 2019 at 7:33 | comment | added | Joe Healey | @Braiam "Tags are a means of connecting experts with questions they will be able to answer" seems to pretty squarely answer the point about following tags to me? cel uses them as such, as would many others. Removing the tag doesn't especially benefit anyone, removing it actively harms people's efforts. The worst case scenario here is a tag being superfluous, which doesn't seem like a strong argument against it to me. Ultimately a tag needs to help see the question answered, and if it allows bioinformaticians to find more questions, faster, it's serving its purpose IMO. | |
May 8, 2019 at 7:29 | comment | added | Wouter De Coster | Bioinformatics uses a specific set of file formats, and as such, it is not only about the (code) implementation. In addition, solving a bioinformatics problem often requires an understanding of both the technology used to generate the data as biological knowledge of the phenomenon being studied. | |
May 8, 2019 at 7:16 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | Stats at the start of featuring: Q: +30/-8. A1 (Saying No) +25/-3. A2 (Saying cleanup) +15/-3. A3 (Saying yes) +4/-9. | |
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Jan 16, 2016 at 13:53 | comment | added | Tim Pietzcker | I would be interested in @KonradRudolph's opinion on this since he is both a StackOverflow guru and a bioinformatics professional. | |
Jan 16, 2016 at 13:26 | comment | added | Braiam | @cel that's stretching it. A tag is a word or phrase that describes the topic of the question. Tags are a means of connecting experts with questions they will be able to answer by sorting questions into specific, well-defined categories. They aren't just to "find" questions, but a mean to get connected to questions you are able to answer. Bioinformatics only connects me with other bioinformatics which may or may not solve my [perl] question, instead of the [perl] expert that know what to do and how to solve my problem. | |
Jan 16, 2016 at 13:18 | comment | added | cel | @Braiam, tags make it easier to follow and find questions. Asking for "absolutely necessary" tags makes no sense. Tagging is good if it helps people find your question; no more - no less. I am following the bioinformatics tag. If you burn it, I cannot follow anymore. | |
Jan 16, 2016 at 13:10 | comment | added | Braiam | @cel how so? Can you say an example whertthe tag is absolutely necessary? Because all I see is superfluous. | |
Jan 16, 2016 at 7:21 | comment | added | cel | Please don't do this. From my experience - yes tagged questions are of lower quality. But: bioinformatics is a real field in science, so it has its own terminology own set of problems etc. Destroying the tag would make it much more difficult to let experts find these questions. I only see disadvantages. | |
Jan 16, 2016 at 1:44 | comment | added | Mogsdad | @CodesInChaos That's not relevant justification for a tag; A tag is a word or phrase that describes the topic of the question. (emphasis mine) While an asker may be asking how to implement a statistical algorithm in R to solve a problem in [bioinformatics], the topic is about the implementation, not the esoteric specialization. | |
Jan 15, 2016 at 23:53 | answer | added | Braiam | timeline score: -42 | |
Jan 15, 2016 at 22:26 | answer | added | Mogsdad | timeline score: 52 | |
Jan 15, 2016 at 22:11 | answer | added | Andy Thomas | timeline score: 122 | |
Jan 15, 2016 at 22:03 | comment | added | CodesInChaos | I think it helps experts in that field find relevant questions to answer and thus is useful. | |
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