Timeline for Should Stack Overflow moderators have a "standard of duty"?
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Mar 13, 2018 at 1:27 | comment | added | Sнаđошƒаӽ | I went out to see how more diamonds are created here on SO, only to find that the link took me to Wikipedia that talks about how actual artificial diamonds are created. Really helpful, +1 :D | |
Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.stackexchange.com/ with https://meta.stackexchange.com/
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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/
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Nov 15, 2016 at 7:36 | history | rollback | Adam LearStaffMod |
Rollback to Revision 3
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Nov 15, 2016 at 4:50 | history | edited | ivan_pozdeev | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
+highly relevant link
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Feb 8, 2016 at 15:37 | comment | added | ChrisF Mod | @Shog9 but with "They also would not be shown the flag indicator in the top bar." there (hopefully) wouldn't be the pressure to visit the flag queue unless you really, really, really wanted to. | |
Jan 4, 2016 at 19:38 | comment | added | Shog9 | Therein lies the problem with this idea, @MichaelMyers: it'd make it harder for folks to step down. Even if they really, really wanted to / needed to. Bill's not the only one who's wanted to step down purely to free up time for other distractions; this kinda reminds me of the "delete but not really and we'll still send you emails" feature on Facebook - you'd never really be able to get away from it. | |
Jan 4, 2016 at 17:19 | history | edited | UndoMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Dec 14, 2015 at 17:27 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @Seth: Correct. It's somewhat difficult to handle flags otherwise. ;-) | |
Dec 14, 2015 at 17:21 | comment | added | Michael Myers Mod | I support this only if Bill the Lizard is required to return as moderator emeritus. | |
Dec 14, 2015 at 17:09 | comment | added | Seth | My latin isn't that good.. I'm guessing by in situ you mean "see flags if they visit the post they were cast on"? | |
Dec 14, 2015 at 16:52 | comment | added | Undo Mod | Having put far too much thought into this over the last few days, I can't find an issue with it. The closest thing is that you'll have more moderators who could theoretically step on each other's toes, but that's a fairly low-priority issue. I do think that throwing more moderators at the queue probably isn't the best solution, though. I'm kicking around a few ideas for 'tiering' moderators, but I'm not sure how well that'd work in the real world. | |
Dec 11, 2015 at 2:55 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @Undo: It's getting attention from the people who can do something about it. Next week. ;-) | |
Dec 11, 2015 at 2:53 | comment | added | Undo Mod | Have you considered posting this as a separate question? I'm not sure it's really getting the attention it deserves as an answer to an old question (unless you're not really looking for feedback, which is fine) | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 13:51 | comment | added | Servy | @JonEricson Yes, and I support all of that. I'm just thinking that maybe the mods should select their own emeritus mods, or the CMs should select them, or something like that, maybe with a minimum number of flags cleared as a nomination criteria. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 7:30 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @Servy: While I agree with the premise that flag clearing is not a sufficient criteria for finding leaders, that's not what this proposal is about. Rather it's a recognition that getting elected and handling tens of thousands of problems on the site are, together, strong indicators that these users are already worthy of the honor. It also gives existing moderators something to aspire to. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 7:13 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @casperOne: It looks like we screwed up somewhere along the way. Several somewheres, in all likelihood. You put in years of hard work and it's got to be terrible to feel like we summarily dismissed you and your contributions. I'm so sorry. This is a problem I'd like to fix for the future and, if possible, make things right with you. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 6:52 | comment | added | Undo Mod | I somewhat wonder if it's a good idea to bring far more people up than we have been (already mentioned this in TL, for context) - I get that communication is an issue, but at this point communication might end up scaling better than the current flag queue is. Definitely agree that it isn't reasonable to expect a mortal human to handle mass quantities of flags for years upon years. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 6:43 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @Undo: Correct. I think an emeritus option would help, however. Part of the problem (in my estimation) was that we have one imperative: hold moderators accountable to a standard of duty. That's fine if we are looking ahead one or two years. But now that we have moderators pushing 5 years of duty, it's just not reasonable to ask them to keep up a high rate of flag clearing. At some point, it should be possible to step away from the grind. We just haven't considered that scenario seriously enough. (Clearly we didn't handle other bits of the communication problem in this particular case.) | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 5:35 | comment | added | Undo Mod | So the only functional change would be moving them to a new section on the dashboard? They keep their diamond, and presumably their spot on the /users?tab=moderators? Seems like the communication problem would still play a role. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 3:54 | comment | added | jscs | Oh! I guess you really did mean "removed". | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 2:51 | comment | added | casperOne | Communication with the mods who have been inactive about why they were inactive probably would go a long way. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 2:09 | comment | added | Servy | Another option is to have tiers of flags for mods. Have all flags cast go to the level 1 queue, that's primarily serviced by less experienced mods, and give them an option to escalate the difficult flags to a level 2 queue that more senior mods focus on, so that the more experienced mods are handling the tickets that actually require the expertise that they have. And when handling harder/more involved flags, there would of course be a lower expectation in numbers of flags cleared. | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 2:06 | comment | added | Servy |
I envision moderators being eligible if they have cleared a large number (50k?) of flags If you're going to put these people in a position to lead the community, guide other moderators, and mediate tough situations, then I'd think that you'd want to put people in this role because they've demonstrated strong leadership skills, are respected by the community at large, are one of the people mods go to when having a problem, etc. Those don't necessarily correlate to people with a high volume of flags handled. I'd really look at different criteria for selecting such mods.
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Dec 10, 2015 at 1:05 | comment | added | jscs | "Recently we've seen moderators...removed from the role." Use of "removed" sounds to me like it was due to some problem, which probably isn't what you meant? | |
Dec 10, 2015 at 0:48 | history | edited | Jon EricsonStaff | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Hat tip: Shog.
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Dec 10, 2015 at 0:32 | history | answered | Jon EricsonStaff | CC BY-SA 3.0 |