Timeline for Should the association bonus be reversed if it was obtained by serial voting?
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Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Jun 1, 2016 at 18:02 | history | edited | rene | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 14, 2015 at 0:11 | comment | added | user3995702 | I'm not sure how big of an issue this really is, but I wouldn't be surprised if now that it is clearly documented on meta, it becomes intentionally exploited. It's a flaw, I think most people would agree, it's just a matter of how big of a flaw vs. how complicated a fix. It should not be a complicated fix, but I can't know for sure - neither can anyone else know it's otherwise. Best I can do is offer a suggestion of how it might be fixed without affecting those who aren't exploiting it with what seems to be the minimal effort given the information available. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 23:50 | comment | added | user3995702 | @ChrisHayes Badges already work the way I suggest. If it's more than a few lines changed to implement, then there's probably bigger problems with how it is currently implemented. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 17:43 | comment | added | Chris Hayes | @WilliamKappler There's no such thing as "trivial" when you're talking about someone else's codebase that you've never seen. And again, "potential" for exploitation isn't a high enough bar to change code that's working great 99.9% of the time. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 17:34 | comment | added | user3995702 | @ChrisHayes It's not particularly complex, the system already works as I described as far as I can tell with the exception of when the bonus flag is set. Moving it to after the reversal would be trivial. Further, as S.L.Barth notes, there is a potential for exploitation. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 17:26 | comment | added | Chris Hayes | @WilliamKappler Really, it seems like a lot of unnecessary complexity to solve something that hasn't really been proven to be a problem. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 16:18 | comment | added | user3995702 | @Mołot The delay could be added only to the first assignment of it - the one which is transferable to other sites. Basically, accounts are flagged as having that bonus. If they are, then when you get a new account, you get the bonus right away. However, to get the flag, you have to wait until after the serial upvote check. Seems common sense. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 11:16 | comment | added | Mołot | @WilliamKappler but that delay would prevent one of the main purposes of this bonus: Ability to sign in and do things. If i see wrong (or inexact) answer on site I technically never signed to, I want to comment immediately. If I'm made to wait, I'll probably go away and forget it. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 2:04 | comment | added | user149341 | @WilliamKappler The association bonus is given as soon as you log in. It's not delayed until a later recalculation. | |
Aug 13, 2015 at 1:19 | comment | added | user3995702 | It seems this would be easily fixed by waiting to assign the association bonus until after the subroutine that reverses serial upvotes has run. | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:51 | comment | added | Mad Scientist | @S.L.Barth Only the main user of a sock network can keep the association bonus. For the sock puppets it doesn't matter as they're deleted anyway once discovered. And if a user abuses the association bonus to break some more rules they're very likely to just be outright deleted or suspended for a long time. | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:45 | comment | added | TZHX | @ryanyuyu agh... I didn't realise that. I thought it only applied to the other sites, sorry. | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 | comment | added | ryanyuyu | @TZHX you get the bonus on all SE sites, including the one that first broke 200 rep. So the bonus is wrong if the same site that broke 200 also had the serial voting. | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:31 | comment | added | Gimby | It leaves a bad taste for sure, but if I read the answer offered by he who should not be named (Martijn Pieters) in that first link, its a clear case of sh1te happens. But if this is the nature of the user in question, then I do believe that eventually enough misconduct will lead to more satisfying results. In other words: the problem will resolve itself. | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:22 | comment | added | rene | @TZHX that is true but not in this case...the association bonus gained here is distributed across other SE accounts... | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:13 | comment | added | TZHX | Isn't the association bonus gained for having a certain amount of rep on other sites? So even if their rep has been removed here, they still (presumably) qualify for it? | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:08 | comment | added | S.L. Barth is on codidact.com | That +100 is more than enough to vote for posts from other accounts, and create even more sock puppets. | |
Aug 12, 2015 at 12:01 | history | edited | rene | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 12, 2015 at 11:38 | history | asked | rene | CC BY-SA 3.0 |