Timeline for Penalty for answering help-vampire questions? Or reward closure?
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Jul 17, 2015 at 15:48 | comment | added | Tanner | Another frustrating case where a gold badge holder answered (with pretty much a copy of my comment) rather than VTC: stackoverflow.com/a/31479446/57475 | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:27 | comment | added | Patrick Hofman | @Tanner it happens all the time unfortunately. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:26 | comment | added | Tanner | @PatrickHofman so I guess those guys were typing and had answers in draft while you closed so were still able to post, never actually been in that situation so have not experienced that first hand. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:25 | comment | added | Patrick Hofman | Yes, they were all posted afterwards, so such feature would have prevented those answers. It is very easy to work-around the closing now. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:24 | comment | added | Tanner | @PatrickHofman sorry, I misunderstood your linked post. So with the "no answering" window you would have had that closed before 3 answers were added and 55 total rep was awarded. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:20 | comment | added | Patrick Hofman | I would love to see the 'post answer after closure' window gone. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:19 | comment | added | Tanner | @PatrickHofman I'm aware this won't catch all cases. It's more like give dupes a chance. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 9:13 | comment | added | Patrick Hofman | @Tanner How about this one? All answers are from after I closed it with Mjolnir. | |
Jul 17, 2015 at 4:32 | comment | added | Shog9 | FWIW, this was the theory behind keeping questions in triage off the front page. Works well enough for what it does, but would need to apply to /questions and all tag pages by default to make a dent. | |
Jul 16, 2015 at 22:34 | comment | added | Tanner | @TravisJ SO already identifies the kind of posts I'm talking about to feed in to the review system AFAIK | |
Jul 16, 2015 at 17:01 | comment | added | Travis J | Who is identifying these "low quality posts"? Perhaps 5 users with close votes could mark a question as low quality some how, with some set of metrics, and then that would prevent other users from answering it. | |
Jul 16, 2015 at 13:00 | comment | added | Tanner | @FrédéricHamidi here's my example for the day with a 133k user that holds a gold badge in topic: stackoverflow.com/questions/31454672/…. I don't hold a gold badge so I can't close it on my own. | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 12:47 | comment | added | Tanner | @FrédéricHamidi although, with my suggestion, I'm not sure that question would have qualified as low quality, unless user reputation under a certain level (1000?) could act as an indicator. | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 12:42 | comment | added | Tanner | @FrédéricHamidi that's a great example right there! | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 12:36 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | @Cerbrus, that would be too drastic IMHO. After all, although misguided, the answerers did invest time and effort into their answers, so arguably our main rewarding system should still work under these conditions. (On the other hand, I sometimes suspect the number of upvotes on those posts is tied to the fact the question is closed as a duplicate in the first place.) | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 12:33 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @FrédéricHamidi: Another option would be to block votes on answers during those 5 minutes, and lock votes on dupe-closed questions. | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 12:18 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | Proof of concept: a five-minute delay would have allowed me to close this often-asked question before it was answered both by a 170K+ user and a ~5K user. | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 11:08 | comment | added | Tanner | @Cerbrus I'm just not sure about taking away reputation in these cases. The duplicate Q&A process would be subjective on the question and answer. Say for example, the closed question had an answer that was actually far more detailed with multiple up votes than the answer on the duplicate post, should a more in depth answer be penalized? | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 10:54 | comment | added | Cerbrus | I like the alternative, but I'm not sure timers like these can work that well. What do you think about making the rep from answers on closed questions no longer count to your total? | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 10:50 | comment | added | Tanner | @FrédéricHamidi couldn't the "add an answer" button simply be disabled to get around this? | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 10:46 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | Your suggestion goes contrary to the grace period we currently have on closed questions, with users who started writing an answer before the question was closed still being allowed to post it, sometimes several hours later. That grace period would have to be delayed by five minutes too for your strategy to work at all, and I don't know if the community will accept that. | |
Jul 15, 2015 at 10:43 | history | edited | Tanner | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jul 15, 2015 at 10:38 | history | answered | Tanner | CC BY-SA 3.0 |