Timeline for Is the dupehammer (Mjölnir) still being evaluated, and if so, what is the current outcome?
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Jul 11, 2015 at 7:11 | comment | added | TylerH | @CodeCaster I think CVs are more a way of saying "This question does not meet the requirements of the site" more than "Nobody should answer this". | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 14:01 | comment | added | DavidG | @CodeCaster I just feel that a Mjölnir wielder has a little more responsibility to be called back to re-check. With great power... yada yada yada! | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 13:07 | comment | added | CodeCaster | @David it works if someone pings the closevoter. Probably because of the auto-removed "possible duplicate" comment that gets posted in your name if you do so. Maybe the possibility could be mentioned in the close message. | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 12:42 | comment | added | DavidG | I do like the dupehammer, it's a nice bonus. However, as with anything like this, those people can make mistakes. Perhaps it's worth allowing commenters to ping the user who used it? I don't think this can happen at the moment? | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 10:27 | comment | added | CodeCaster | @hier yeah, once you can vote to close (as opposed to flagging), you can vote to reopen as well. | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 10:20 | comment | added | hiergiltdiestfu | @CodeCaster thanks for your answer. This is probably related to rep-based privileges*, but to me, close votes appear to be permanent. I can only think of flagging wrongly/abusively closed questions for mod attention, to get them removed. And this is a hurdle I'll not jump most of the time, because most misuses are minor (aka questions are closely related, but strictly no duplicates). (*Close/Reopen vote privilege, obviously.) | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 9:46 | comment | added | CodeCaster | @hiergiltdiestfu close votes (of whatever kind) are a way of saying "Nobody should answer this". This happens through duplicate-voting for clear duplicates, and unclear-voting for questions that are, well, unclear, just as too broad votes for questions that are multiple questions in one. A close-vote is never permanent. Sometimes a question is so unclear or broad that nobody could properly answer it (so it should be closed), but parts of it hint towards being a duplicate of an existing question. I can see a gold badge user being tempted to use the Mlölnir to prevent anyone from answering. | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 9:40 | comment | added | hiergiltdiestfu | So far, my only experience with people using that privilege is negative. While only anecdotal evidence, there appears to be a trend to be overly coarse when deciding whether a question is a duplicate. In fact it usually reminds me of 1st level support forwarding tickets based on key words simply appearing in the ticket description, no matter the weight or role of that words' occurence in the text. And it carries a similar emotional effect. | |
Jul 10, 2015 at 1:23 | comment | added | Jason S | I guess I can deal with mods/admins/employees/whatever (people with the diamond next to their username), since they are more directly accountable to the community... but would still feel better if it always took at least 2 people. It doesn't seem like that big a hurdle, and it's a counterbalance to a momentary lapse of judgement. | |
Jul 9, 2015 at 21:04 | comment | added | TylerH | @JasonS "I don't think one person should be given overwhelming authority to close a question" So you disagree with moderators and employees being able to do this, as well? | |
Jul 9, 2015 at 16:20 | comment | added | Air | @JasonS Tim Post is technically an employee, not a moderator. (Opinions may vary on how that affects his credibility.) | |
Jul 9, 2015 at 15:51 | comment | added | Jason S | And FWIW, while closing a question has little effect on the long-term status of the question (it can be reopened easily), it can have a huge social impact. If all you care about is question curation (and not fostering a cohesive community), go ahead, wield the dupehammer, give it to anyone with a badge, whatever. | |
Jul 9, 2015 at 15:49 | comment | added | CodeCaster | @Jason one incident doesn't make it useless for every case. It's been in use for more than a year now, and a "resounding success" according to Tim below. | |
Jul 9, 2015 at 15:48 | comment | added | Jason S | "gold badge holders for a tag can close-vote questions in that tag as duplicate with only one vote" -- too much power IMHO. Give them 2 votes if you like, but I don't think one person should be given overwhelming authority to close a question. I got dupehammered incorrectly by a gold badger, 6 minutes after posting, who didn't read the question properly. He reopened it, but left me in angry limbo for a while. | |
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Jul 8, 2015 at 13:22 | answer | added | user50049 | timeline score: 96 | |
Jul 8, 2015 at 13:14 | history | edited | CodeCaster | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jul 8, 2015 at 13:03 | history | asked | CodeCaster | CC BY-SA 3.0 |