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More actively discourage third-party product support aton Stack Overflow

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All is well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he/she feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he/she is because the product's site tells them to post on Stack Overflow.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and (may) retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example is here. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirelytotally irrelevant at SOon Stack Overflow (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1Doesn't apply any more. They changed ittheir support model and now it's perfect!.

More actively discourage third-party product support at Stack Overflow

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All is well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he/she feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he/she is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example is here. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1Doesn't apply any more. They changed it and now it's perfect!

More actively discourage third-party product support on Stack Overflow

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All is well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he/she feels shuttled from pillar to post because the product's site tells them to post on Stack Overflow.
  • I admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and (may) retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example is here. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are totally irrelevant on Stack Overflow (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1Doesn't apply any more. They changed their support model.

(While we are at it.) - yes, I did not bump it (that was by a question edit)!
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More actively discourage third-party product support at Stack Overflow

HereHere are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouragednot encouraged to do this too easily. All is well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he/she feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he/she is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example is herehere. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a verya very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1 Doesn'tDoesn't apply any more. They changedThey changed it and now it's perfect!

More actively discourage product support at Stack Overflow

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example here. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1 Doesn't apply any more. They changed it and now it's perfect!

More actively discourage third-party product support at Stack Overflow

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All is well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he/she feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he/she is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example is here. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1Doesn't apply any more. They changed it and now it's perfect!

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Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example here. You see, by the way, that the OP even expectsthought he contactswas contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1 Doesn't apply any more. They changed it and now it's perfect!

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example here. You see, by the way, that the OP even expects he contacts product support directly. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1 Doesn't apply any more. They changed it and now it's perfect!

Here are some pretty tight guidelines for product vendors that outsource their support to Stack Overflow. And vendors are not encouraged to do this too easily. All well and good.

But even for a seasoned Stack Overflow contributor like me it's impossible to know all products that use this support model. So what frequently happens is:

  • User X asks a clearly support-related question about ProductA.
  • I vote to close this question, indicating that it belongs on the product's support forum.
  • X responds in a frustrated manner that he feels shuttled from pillar to post. And he is.
  • I rather sheepishly admit I didn't know that ProductA referred to Stack Overflow for support and retract my close vote.

That's a lot of clutter and uselessly spent energy!

Just one example here. You see, by the way, that the OP even thought he was contacting product support directly here. ("Did you introduce a new bug...", "you french guys...").

In this case, in my opinion the product vendor, SonarQube, did a very poor job1 in instructing their users when and how to resort to Stack Overflow. And they clearly don't follow up sufficiently on questions in their tag (only an edit!). But that's beyond SO's control. Any product vendor can refer to SO in this poor (or even poorer) manner and lean back.

But there's more to it. Users typically won't read even the best and concise guidelines on product sites. They see "Stack Overflow" and there they go. So what we get is a lot of questions that can't even be answered here, only by the product developers themselves if they happen to be around. For instance -

  • Why is this feature implemented this way?
  • When do you expect to release version x.y?
  • I have this feature request....

These questions are entirely irrelevant at SO (in the past they would go down as "too localized").

So I would like to actively discourage this support model in some way. I know that this is hard to realize. Maybe there should be a specific flag for it. Is SO even capable (in term of human resources) of contacting offenders?


1 Doesn't apply any more. They changed it and now it's perfect!

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