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Jan 18, 2021 at 12:03 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://blog.stackoverflow.com with https://blog.stackoverflow.com
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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/
Mar 16, 2017 at 9:52 comment added gnat this seems to be the kind of attitude that "new order" is welcoming at Stack Overflow: Provide 24*7 Online help centre facility "Many programmers are struggling during their office time due to critical bugs and doubts. If you provide online immediate assistance it will save lots of developers careers and life too."
Sep 12, 2016 at 6:11 comment added Ernestas Stankevičius I liked it when you could say you have 1000points in SO and it would define your skill. But now, it just points. I had one developer with 12k, and he was shit. No git, composer but expert in syntax errors and php function usage.
Sep 12, 2016 at 5:29 comment added Claies The really sad part is that when people actually do try to vote down poorly worded or badly researched questions, the response tends to be "you people on SO are *&^% snobs" or some such, instead of "What can I do to improve this question?".
Sep 12, 2016 at 4:51 comment added TylerH I have to say, it's not so much that Atwood was wrong and Spolsky was right, it's that Spolsky had free reign to run the site how he wanted. Saying Spolsky was right because of how the site has turned out is a classic case of confirmation bias; the site turned out how it did because Spolsky was in charge.
Sep 12, 2016 at 4:49 history edited TylerH CC BY-SA 3.0
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Sep 11, 2016 at 5:51 comment added Jim Garrison Just stumbled onto this question and answer. It explains a lot, and makes me very, very sad and discouraged. Sigh. My motivation to participate just went down to near zero. I find it curious that the consensus on Meta is the Atwood model, but without the tools to enforce it the onslaught of crap overwhelms efforts to moderate it.
Sep 10, 2016 at 21:48 comment added artem @Violet Giraffe you think that was hilarious? Then you might like this one: how to sum 2 numbers in typescript
Sep 10, 2016 at 18:58 comment added Violet Giraffe That LOGO question is hillarious, thanks for the link! Your whole answer is a good read, for that matter. That feeling when you're reading StackOverflow for fun...
Sep 10, 2016 at 18:27 history edited Almo CC BY-SA 3.0
commas made it unclear who "he" was.
Sep 2, 2016 at 0:50 comment added Michael Gaskill I just read this for the first time, and it really explains the struggle to maintain quality, when quantity (of users) is the true goal. This puts a vast amount of meta posts (both questions and answers) into a new light. Thanks for the explanation!
Jun 8, 2015 at 0:58 comment added OutstandingBill Why are we talking about moving questions to a beginners' site? Surely they could be flagged as "pearl" or "sand" (default being "sand", and high-rep users can award "pearl" status) and the consumer could decide which they want to see.
Jun 6, 2015 at 16:40 comment added Hadi @gnat in fact so is too famous, and any one with a question which is somehow related to programming tries to ask his/her question in SO, so making another site and trying to GAVE THEM THEIR OWN SITE, is not a good solution at all, you must try to gave them part of "SO" but keep a high quality section for SO, (there is lots of other sites and forums for asking question about programming, but "SO" is the site which others like to ask their question in it. so the best practice is to have a high quality section and a beginner section in so t satisfy all)
Jun 6, 2015 at 16:38 comment added Hans Passant It takes an expert to properly interpret a beginner question. Knowing how to ask the right question isn't that simple, basic stuff like using the proper terminology and posting a good repro snippet are obstacles. You can't click the MOVE button on an expert, they won't come voluntarily.
Jun 6, 2015 at 16:34 comment added Hadi @ruakh yes,indeed, but i mean we/you can move low quality question in so standards, (but high quality in beginners standards) to another site which is a SO fellow site, it doesn't need excess effort to do this, just need another button for moderators to click on "MOVE to SO Beginners Site" instead of "Delete" button.
Jun 6, 2015 at 9:12 comment added gnat @darenshan "We already tried supporting those questions, we even gave them their own site. Sadly, it didn't work out..."
Jun 5, 2015 at 22:17 comment added ruakh @darenshan: Don't worry -- no one is suggesting that "'Good' beginner Q&A" should be deleted. Rather, it's just that we have different standards for what makes something "Good".
Jun 5, 2015 at 19:19 comment added Hadi @Frank i agree with you, but apparently there are 2 group of audience, those who are expert , and beginners!, and it is a good solution to move "Good" beginner Q&A to another place instead of deletion.
Jun 5, 2015 at 18:58 comment added Andy I will say this: I went to this question Atwood mentioned in his blog post: [skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4498/… and unexpectedly learned some amazing things I never knew about successful torture-free interrogation techniques. So the question proved useful to me at least. I can't think of other popular forums where I've seen such thoughtful answers to mundane or overly broad questions.
Jun 5, 2015 at 18:42 comment added Frank @darenshan First, let's do one thing well; the rest of the internet is awash in forums. Second, if we did have a forum, it would degrade the quality of the Q&A side by being a major drain on the attention of mods and staff. Anyone seeking a forum for SO can find one on reddit, I'm sure. (I'm not a redditor.)
Jun 5, 2015 at 18:05 comment added Roman C "what user want" - they want you to solve their problems for free, isn't it? They don't want to ask a question in terms of SO and follow their rules, they want you to solve their problems immediately, in the sense of help.
Jun 5, 2015 at 18:01 comment added Hadi is it that hard to have two sites like so in se ,one to be a wiki , and other to be a forum?
Jun 5, 2015 at 18:00 comment added Robert Crovella I guess maybe you mean Spolsky was right in determining "what users want". But even that is not crystal clear to me.
Jun 5, 2015 at 17:58 comment added Robert Crovella "Turns out that Spolsky was right and Atwood was wrong." If you had said "Turns out that Atwood was right and Spolsky was wrong" I would have glided right over that sentence. But now I wonder in what way specifically was Spolsky right and Atwood wrong? Atwood seems to have been right about pearls and sand. And if growth is the issue (true for many going concerns) then your statement that "SO experienced geometric growth in the Atwood years, it ground to a halt in fall of 2013" seems to contradict your statement about who is right. Thanks for this answer!!
Jun 5, 2015 at 15:21 comment added Gimby Man, this would make a book I'd read.
Jun 5, 2015 at 13:53 comment added BSMP The two site founders, Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky, had very different ideas what kind of questions should be on topic for SO. I half expected you to end this with Atwood creating a Chamber of Secrets.
Jun 5, 2015 at 13:33 history answered Hans Passant CC BY-SA 3.0