Timeline for Reduce usefulness of posting spam to Stack Overflow
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May 23, 2017 at 12:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://stackoverflow.com/ with https://stackoverflow.com/
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Jul 6, 2015 at 10:15 | comment | added | Carl Onager | @HansPassant Sisyphus was punished by the gods, he didn't roll the boulder up the hill voluntarily: 'The maddening nature of the punishment was reserved for King Sisyphus due to his hubristic belief that his cleverness surpassed that of Zeus himself'. No one is forced to moderate here so there should be no need to complain about doing so, especially with such a dramatic metaphor. | |
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:17 | vote | accept | Sergey Kalinichenko | ||
Jun 9, 2015 at 16:16 | comment | added | Shog9 | That'd work if these spammers didn't apparently have all the time in the world to burn: the bulk are already registering accounts with email verification. @Ian | |
Jun 9, 2015 at 7:52 | comment | added | Ian Ringrose | @Shog9 what about requiring an account and email verification for anyone that uses a large NAT or anonymizing proxie | |
Jun 6, 2015 at 11:50 | history | edited | unor |
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Jun 5, 2015 at 20:02 | comment | added | user177800 | they do not care how long the message is public, they are gaming google because the more unique external links they get the higher up the page rank the original site gets when it matches search terms, this is just another form of the original google bomb tactic. If it gets bad enough google will address it and start banning the domains of the people using these spammers. | |
Jun 5, 2015 at 4:38 | answer | added | Ilmari Karonen | timeline score: 25 | |
Jun 5, 2015 at 4:06 | answer | added | Unihedron | timeline score: 5 | |
Jun 4, 2015 at 21:45 | comment | added | Shog9 | The problem isn't that we can't identify the source, or even that we don't block them - it's that IP addresses are quickly becoming an unreliable tool for this, @Hans. Large (sometimes country-wide) NATs and widely available anonymizing proxies both aid spammers and other ne'er-do-wells in avoiding these blocks and penalize others who get caught in the crossfire. We still use this information as best we can, and currently block or throttle constantly based on it - but it isn't and cannot be 100% reliable. Where signal is weak, human-review is essential in getting this stuff off the site ASAP | |
Jun 4, 2015 at 16:55 | comment | added | Hans Passant | Hmya, SE professes to care, that's why they ban users that contribute poor content. And I care. A lot. Moderating content at SO is not a fun job, it turns into a pointless never-ending Sisyphean job if it doesn't actually accomplish anything. | |
Jun 4, 2015 at 16:37 | comment | added | nico | @HansPassant Do you have any idea how many of these illicit accounts you never detect? If they are not detected it means they are sitting there doing no harm, so... who cares? SE would have a shot at identifying the source from the IP address but doesn't. and after identifying the IP (assuming it is a single static one...) they would do what exactly? | |
Jun 4, 2015 at 16:36 | comment | added | JonH | @BradLarson You should remove the referenced link to google as this gives out a number that bills the living hell out of people - and we all know people are always very curious creatures. | |
Jun 4, 2015 at 4:38 | answer | added | user50049 | timeline score: 48 | |
Jun 4, 2015 at 3:24 | answer | added | Ben Voigt | timeline score: 1 | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 22:48 | comment | added | Hans Passant | @Brad - that doesn't make me feel the least bit better. It only tells me that this isn't a bot network. And that SE would have a shot at identifying the source from the IP address but doesn't. Do you have any idea how many of these illicit accounts you never detect? Well, it is unknowable, isn't it? | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 22:22 | comment | added | Brad Larson Mod | @HansPassant - For spammers, there are significant hurdles to creating accounts. Captchas and the like keep out almost all true bots, and intelligent IP blocks, etc. do an incredibly effective job at blocking human spammers from creating new accounts: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/228043/… . My screenshot above was every single instance of spam that Stack Overflow received in three hours. Only 10 spam questions making it through in three hours is pretty impressive for a site this size. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 21:33 | comment | added | Hans Passant | It is ridiculously easy to create an account at SO and post a question. By spammers and question-banned users alike. Why SE won't address this is beyond my comprehension. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 20:29 | comment | added | Jonas Czech | Also, YouTube has thousands of them, see the Google search Brad linked. Seems like Google doesn't care about scammers abusing multiple of their products. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 20:01 | comment | added | BSMP | @BradLarson - No, I'm afraid that stretching out the s-word just isn't a compelling argument for getting my printer repair business. That might have worked better if the number was for a plumber. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 19:56 | comment | added | Brad Larson Mod | @BSMP - What, you're not going to call them up after seeing this: i.sstatic.net/namZJ.png ? (Also note all the variants that they use to work around various content blacklists, filters, etc.) | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 19:30 | comment | added | BSMP | they're just contracted to spam it in X places That's probably true, but I can't imagine what the company that pays these spammers actually gets out of it. I can't imagine there are many people who pick a printer repair company because they saw what is clearly bot-generated spam. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 18:28 | answer | added | Travis J | timeline score: 11 | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 18:24 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | The premise that spammers actually care how effective their spam is seems somewhat questionable. Often they really don't seem to take even fairly basic steps to improve effectiveness and keep things around longer, so they are either incompetent enough not to notice that their posts are never being crawled, or somehow it's beneficial anyway. SO already nofollows those links, so there's no googlejuice being transferred. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 17:46 | comment | added | Brad Larson Mod | These particular hotline spammers have been attacking the site for months, using an incredibly large botnet. Stack Exchange is one of the few places actually cleaning up their mess: google.com/… . I'm not sure they even care how long their spam stays up, they're just contracted to spam it in X places. Also, I don't think SE does any direct feeding of information to Google, the site is just popular enough to be crawled constantly. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 17:15 | comment | added | Mysticial | How about we block crawlers from a question for the first 5 minutes. | |
Jun 3, 2015 at 17:14 | history | asked | Sergey Kalinichenko | CC BY-SA 3.0 |