Timeline for Should we add an off-topic close reason to specifically address legal requests?
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Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.stackexchange.com/ with https://meta.stackexchange.com/
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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/
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Jun 1, 2015 at 12:52 | comment | added | durron597 | @bluefeet The popup box could be made bigger. The 5 could be set to 6. UI concerns are not the issue here. | |
May 30, 2015 at 18:41 | history | edited | Alexis King |
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May 30, 2015 at 4:52 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | 300 times doesn't seem like very much, surely... | |
May 29, 2015 at 22:15 | comment | added | corsiKa | @GeorgeStocker If we didn't have the blue-sky close reason, we would lose out on the kinds of data that prompted this question. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:56 | answer | added | Deduplicator | timeline score: 27 | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:49 | answer | added | Hans Passant | timeline score: 14 | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:45 | comment | added | Travis J | Speaking to past discussions, especially on "thought experiments", this one pertains to the comment about allowing all questions (i.e. no closures) meta.stackoverflow.com/q/286407/1026459 | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:44 | answer | added | AStopher | timeline score: -2 | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:42 | comment | added | Travis J | @bluefeet - I definitely would not want to burden moderators with more work if it were avoidable. If you think that this path is important enough that it saves time then perhaps it is not a viable option for removal. Although I am curious how effective the close reason is if people still flag for migration to sites that are already in the preset list. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:39 | comment | added | Taryn Mod | @TravisJ How do you figure that? If we remove a standard migration list, then all those would be flagged for a moderator to move or do you just think that people will leave the off-topic questions here on SO? | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:36 | comment | added | Travis J | @bluefeet - I do not think that removing it would affect the number of flags you get for migration because a large amount of migration targets are not covered at all by the migration reason and as a result removing it will not have any affect on a large amount of migration flags or requests. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:36 | comment | added | Alexis King | I agree with @bluefeet if only for the MSO migration reason. The other reasons are... sketchy at best, but automatic migration to Meta is a good thing, imo. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:35 | comment | added | Taryn Mod | @TravisJ While I agree that the migration stuff needs work, removing that option will only increase the # of custom flags that moderators get. In the past 90 days that's 103 flags to Stats, 86 flags to DBA, 75 to MSO, etc, etc, etc and voting to close because something belongs on another site, just leads to messy cross-posts that mods on multiple sites have to deal with. I'm not sure removing that is that option is ideal in many ways. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:33 | comment | added | Alexis King | @GeorgeStocker Because giving someone the gist of why their question was off-topic is good, and for the small portion who actually wants to learn more, the help center is available. Just throwing up a vague "read this small novel to figure out why your question was closed" statement is not helpful. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:33 | comment | added | George Stocker Mod | @TravisJ It's around here somewhere, but Shog9 had a meta post that detailed a non trivial amount of abuse in the custom close reason. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:32 | comment | added | Travis J | @GeorgeStocker - I disagree as well. I don't see it being misused in the statistics page. The perhaps closest to that is "close because it is not a question" as a custom reason. No one seems to have ever entered "the sky is blue" as a valid close reason. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:32 | comment | added | George Stocker Mod | @AlexisKing If they aren't going to read it anyway, then why should any of our close reasons link to the help center? Why don't we allow all questions since users clearly don't read anyway? | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:31 | comment | added | Alexis King | @GeorgeStocker I disagree, honestly. People asking those kinds of off-topic questions aren't going to read the help center, anyway, they're just going to get frustrated and leave. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:30 | comment | added | Travis J | @bluefeet - Okay, that's fair. Looking at some stats (I have a personal stats page now :P) it appears that most sites use the off topic -> migrate selection 0.00% and that even on StackOverflow it is only used 0.34% of the time in closures. I believe this makes a strong case for removing it, especially considering that custom reasons are used more commonly than the migration reason and also that migration does not include an option to actually select the proper exchange. It is probably more likely that custom reasons are used for migration more often than the actual migration option. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:30 | comment | added | George Stocker Mod | I'd rather get rid of the free range "This is offtopic because the sky is blue" and replace it with a generic "This is an off topic question as defined in the Stack OVerflow help center" and then use the help center to convey that legal questions are off topic. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:25 | comment | added | Taryn Mod | @TravisJ I'm playing devil's advocate here. We have limited space in the UI. So if that space remains small, something has to give. I think it's a valid question. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:24 | comment | added | AStopher | @TravisJ Probably design aesthetics more than anything; the design of SE/SO is simple, we don't need it cluttered (not implying that adding the additional close reason would make it cluttered). | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:24 | comment | added | Travis J | @bluefeet - If one had to go, I would say it should be site migration "This question belongs on another exchange" because that close reason is so broken I honestly cannot fathom why it still exists. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:23 | comment | added | Travis J | @bluefeet - Is it really the case where we cannot add this in without replacing something? | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:23 | comment | added | Alexis King | @MartinJames It's 10k+, not 20k. The SO page is here. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:22 | comment | added | Alexis King | @bluefeet What exactly is the reason for that? Is that just a hard limit in the current SE software? Either way, you could make it fit in a few different ways, I guess. Perhaps the easiest one would be merging the Super User/Server Fault off-topic reasons. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:21 | comment | added | AStopher | @bluefeet Perhaps one that is the least used? I'm not 10k so I don't have access to this new tool, but I would've thought that you could easily find out the least used option. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:21 | comment | added | Martin James | Ummm 20K+ users :( | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:19 | comment | added | Taryn Mod | And which reason would this replace? We have a limited number of spaces so if we add one, another needs to go. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:13 | history | asked | Alexis King | CC BY-SA 3.0 |