Timeline for How to cope with complaints from tutors who want to fight cheaters
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Jun 5, 2016 at 10:32 | history | edited | SeinopSys | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 30, 2015 at 8:48 | history | edited | Sylvain Leroux | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
I'm still a teacher...
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May 30, 2015 at 0:08 | history | edited | Deduplicator | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 29, 2015 at 19:32 | comment | added | alexis | You're right, it depends on the level of the course and on the level of the question, of course. My courses are introductory to intermediate, and there's no point trying to legislate "good" and "bad" questions. If my students have a question they can't answer by googling, they can ask me or one of the assistants. They can learn how to get people to help them another time. | |
May 29, 2015 at 19:19 | comment | added | DanielST | @alexis I understand not asking questions about small assignments, but what about larger ones? If, say, you are building a basic OpenGL renderer and you have a question about a specific API function, what's wrong with asking it? Learning to do your own research (including asking on SO if it isn't there already) is a valuable skill. If the focus of the course on basic stuff like syntax, fine. But if it's a higher level course, I can't see why you would ban SO questions. | |
May 29, 2015 at 16:52 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Copy edited. Used the official name of Stack Overflow - see section "Proper Use of the Stack Exchange Name" in http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance (the last section). Expansion.
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May 28, 2015 at 18:29 | comment | added | alexis | I should also point out that the question that led to this is from 2011. Change your assignments once in a while, dude. | |
May 28, 2015 at 18:27 | comment | added | alexis | This. I also teach programming and I was going to write a very similar answer. My students are forbidden to ask questions about their assignments on any forums, but reading what's already there is permitted. | |
May 28, 2015 at 17:39 | comment | added | Sylvain Leroux | @Deduplicator I agree that all answers should be educational. However when you answer for "homework", as the OP has less experience and more fragile technical knowledge, you have to craft you answer more carefully than you would do in the general case. For example, mentioning "concurrency issues" or "ACID compliance" when answering to a database-related question is probably not enough there. You have to give an example. Thing you would probably not do otherwise. | |
May 28, 2015 at 15:25 | comment | added | Deduplicator | @Jongware: Well, "try this [code blob]" -answers are always low quality answers, though some questions beg for them. Every answer should be educational, giving all neccessary facts and explanations. No difference whether it's a homework-question or not. | |
May 28, 2015 at 15:21 | comment | added | Jongware | @Deduplicator: (hoping you are referring to the homework tag and not to my first comment) The underlying thought is to encourage an educational answer instead of "Try this: (codez)" – as in the last link in my first comment. | |
May 28, 2015 at 14:45 | comment | added | Deduplicator | @Jongware: No. Actually, hell no! The fact that it's a school assignment or some such does not in any way supersede our rules of what makes an acceptable/great question respective answer, ever. | |
May 28, 2015 at 11:59 | comment | added | PM 2Ring | @Jongware: Totally! I've been participating on programming forums etc for several years, but writing answers on SO has taken it to a whole new level. When you make a minor error of explanation here you (generally) learn about it very quickly. :) | |
May 28, 2015 at 11:51 | comment | added | Jongware | @PM2Ring: yes, for me it often serves the same purpose as rubber duck debugging. Explaining something in detail forces one to evaluate what s/he actually understands. And when you get slapped for a 'bad' educational answer, you learned something new! | |
May 28, 2015 at 10:37 | history | edited | Sylvain Leroux | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 28, 2015 at 10:16 | comment | added | PM 2Ring | I love to help people with their homework, OTOH, doing their homework for them isn't actually helping. :) | |
May 28, 2015 at 10:05 | comment | added | Sylvain Leroux |
@Jongware The pros and cons of meta-tags, esp. homework have been discussed many times. I don't know if using it would add any benefit over simply writing "it is for homework" somewhere in the question. On the other hand, "the system" should maybe identify homework questions to display a notice on top of the page saying something like "Homework question are expressly allowed in SO but deserve a detailed explanations for the OP to make most of it. Please refrain yourself to post only the solution to the problem."
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May 28, 2015 at 9:55 | history | edited | Sylvain Leroux | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 28, 2015 at 9:53 | comment | added | Jongware |
We may have to reevaluate the value of a homework tag...
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May 28, 2015 at 9:51 | comment | added | Sylvain Leroux | @Jongware Yes, you are right. I can't understand when I see a decent homework question simply down-voted because of that. Homework questions are allowed. And they need a special attention. But by blindly down-voting them, we basically teach the asker (s)he should have cheated instead of asking openly for help. | |
May 28, 2015 at 9:42 | history | edited | Sylvain Leroux | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 28, 2015 at 9:08 | comment | added | Mekap | Just as a glimpse of hope for you, i've seen more than enough french cs students go by SO, let it be reading or just using it; don't loose faith ! | |
May 28, 2015 at 8:43 | comment | added | Jongware | This is exactly why it may be necessary to mention "this is homework" in a question, and unnecessary to blithely stomp those questions down. (Good example/Bad example.) They require a different kind of answer – a well-thought out one, informing, instructive, or educational; not something like this answer. | |
May 28, 2015 at 8:26 | history | answered | Sylvain Leroux | CC BY-SA 3.0 |