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May 1, 2015 at 19:03 comment added Kevin B To me it seems like requiring the mod to both check the validity of the flag now and at the time it was raised would be unneeded additional work. the only benefit of the additional work would be to reduce the chance that the person flagging gets a temporarily flag ban, which I don't think is that big of a problem.. If you're in danger of being flag banned, maybe you should bit more cautious on what flags are cast, for example, waiting to see if the owner of the post is going to actively improve it.
Apr 30, 2015 at 20:04 comment added Rizier123 @Kendra But I think it's more or less clear, that a declined is the wrong thing to trigger for a flag which were valid at the time it was flagged. I think now it's just a question what else a mod could do, so that it would neither count against nor for the user.
Apr 30, 2015 at 20:00 comment added Kendra @Rizier123 I could see having a different status for mods to assign, but I don't think "aged away" would work for this purpose. If someone manually sets it, it would feel like a mislabel to call it that because the flag didn't age away, the need for action did.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:59 comment added Rizier123 @Kendra Then can't we change it that mods also can trigger it manually? I think this would match perfectly for flags which were valid at the time they were flagged, but now don't need any attention anymore. Because they "aged away" from an action like an edit which the user made. Also it wouldn't count against nor for the user.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:49 comment added Kendra @Rizier123 See this for how flags get marked "aged away". It's strictly a time-based setting, not a manually selected one.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:42 comment added Rizier123 @BradLarson Would that be a possible that moderators click on "aged away", since they don't count for nor against the user for such flags as described in my question ?
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:32 comment added Funk Forty Niner You're right @apsillers and it is a reasonable proposition. If I may just elaborate a bit more on the "Try this" concept; a "try this", in my view (and many others will agree), should be used in conjunction with an informative answer. For example; an opening about where faults were made, followed by fixed code, and/or where errors are, "then" followed by a "If that doesn't fix it, then try the following... etc. That type of answer I have seen many times and often receive many positive votes. If we don't let the newbies know, then they'll just keep on giving low quality answers.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:24 comment added apsillers @Fred-ii- If you believe the scope of VLQ should expand to include code-only answers, I would craft a new definition that incorporates that category of answer (while being careful to word it in a way that doesn't wrongly include other categories of posts) and include it in carefully-considered [feature-request] weighing the pros and cons of deleting such answers versus merely letting the community downvote them. (I am 100% serious. If you can argue the site would be better with such posts deleted, then make your case in a new [feature-request]. It seems like a reasonable proposition.)
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:15 comment added Funk Forty Niner @apsillers Not VLQ? Exactly, it's worse than very low quality. It says absolutely nothing but "Try this" with nothing to back it up. Sorry, but if someone hasn't already edited their answer given comments to ask them why they should "Try this", then it should be flagged/deleted. Here I thought Stack wanted to have a strong and quality base of Q&A's. That says a lot about the integrity of members who will only keep posting low quality and uninformative answers.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:08 comment added Funk Forty Niner .....approved by people who know absolutely squat (I spared the other s-word) about MySQL/PDO. Rejected by guys who know what they're talking about like showdev and Ed Cottrell. Giving my head another serious shake. Ok, I got the message but being barred for too many rejected flags, gets my goat.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:06 comment added apsillers @Fred-ii- Just so you know, according to the flag definitions, that post you linked to is not VLQ (someone could salvage it by editing in an explanation) and it is not NAA (it is not another question or request for clarification).
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:05 comment added Brad Larson Mod @Fred-ii- - I'm not sure what that has to do with this. The post wasn't edited, and your flag was disputed in review. It is still an attempt at answering a question, so a flag requesting immediate deletion for something like that will most likely be declined or disputed in review. If you feel that is a bad answer, downvote it and move on.
Apr 30, 2015 at 19:01 comment added Rizier123 meta.stackoverflow.com/a/287211/3933332 Seems like since a month or so there is "aged away", so wouldn't that be the right thing to do for a moderator to say: it aged away. So it neither counts for or against the user?!
Apr 30, 2015 at 18:54 comment added Funk Forty Niner "If whatever the post was flagged for (lacking some details, having a swear word within it, etc.) has been corrected by the community, did we even need to be involved to begin with?" - This part "lacking some details". I won't retype all over again, it's in this comment that I left....
Apr 30, 2015 at 18:49 comment added Rizier123 @BenVoigt I would agree with this. But the declined is just counting against you and stands for like: "The flag was wrong, because there was nothing to handle", but you flagged it at another time where there was something to handle. So if you get a declined flag it's like: "Don't flag such stuff there was nothing to handle". And I think this is wrong. I think you should tell a user if his flag was good/correct or bad. And I think since a few weeks there is also the thing:"aged away", which would probably be something which could be used for something like this
Apr 30, 2015 at 18:47 comment added BradleyDotNET Agreed that valid flags that are then fixed by an edit should be disputed at worst. Yes, the community fixed it, but how could the flagger expect that?
Apr 30, 2015 at 18:42 comment added Ben Voigt Perhaps if intervening edits occur, the flag should never be declined. Whether it is best to use disputed or a new resolution overcome by edit or such, I cannot say. (If implemented, this feature should be aware of ninja edits. Even though the minor revisions aren't saved, the system should know the last edit came after the flag)
Apr 30, 2015 at 18:36 history answered Brad LarsonMod CC BY-SA 3.0