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Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


  

I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


  

Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


  

New one:


  

Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


  

This oneThis one doesn't know about foreach loops.


  

This oneThis one doesn't know how to catch exceptions. Has the user really never seen a try/catch block?

Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


 

I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


 

Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


 

New one:


 

Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


 

This one doesn't know about foreach loops.


 

This one doesn't know how to catch exceptions. Has the user really never seen a try/catch block?

Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":

 

I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.

 

Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.

 

New one:

 

Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.

 

This one doesn't know about foreach loops.

 

This one doesn't know how to catch exceptions. Has the user really never seen a try/catch block?

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Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


New one:


Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


This one doesn't know about foreach loops.


This one doesn't know how to catch exceptions. Has the user really never seen a try/catch block?

Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


New one:


Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


This one doesn't know about foreach loops.

Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


New one:


Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


This one doesn't know about foreach loops.


This one doesn't know how to catch exceptions. Has the user really never seen a try/catch block?

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Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


New one:


Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


This one doesn't know about foreach loops.

Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


New one:


Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.

Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I just saw two winners in a row:

These are both from new developers who have little or no idea about the basics of the C# programming language. I mean, they seem to have figured out that statements are ended by semi-colons, and they know there are different kinds of object, but I'm not sure how much more they know than that.

Now, before the great and powerful 100k+ user is accused of elitism and forgetting where he came from, here's where I "came from":


I entered Worcester Polytechnic Institute in September, 1975. At the time, I had never seen a computer. My major was Life Science.

On the way to meals, I would notice these people congregating in a particular area over to the side of the way to the cafeteria. I became curious, and learned that these were programmers hanging around computer terminals. I started looking over their shoulders, and reading the printouts from some of the terminals, and found that some of it was understandable (it was COBOL).

I eventually annoyed them enough that one of them told me to go down to the Computer Center and sign up for an account. After I did that, I asked him what I should learn, and he pointed me to Algol. The rest is history.

So, notice that I was self-taught when I started to program. I didn't even have any Computer Science courses until I was a sophomore, by which time I already knew how to program. I had already lucked out and got my first job in computers the previous Spring Break.

But notice also, that I started out by reading a book.

Now, "kids these days" have this thing called "The Internet", so they don't need any stinking books. The only problem with that is that the stinking books started from the assumption that you knew little, and built up your knowledge, layer on layer. Constants, to variables, to statements, to flow of control, to subroutines, to recursion.


Enough of memory lane. My point is that I think that many of these people cannot be helped by a Q&A site. They don't need to ask questions - they need to go read a beginner's book. Not a tutorial!

I propose that we close questions like this with a new close reason of "You have no clue" (or something more polite), and direct these people to some online resource which will actually teach them the basics of the language they are interested in.

We can then welcome them back and answer their questions about when to use an array vs. a list - by closing it as a duplicate most likely, but at least they will have enough of a clue to benefit from the Q&A format.


New one:


Slightly different, but still: I just answered a user who didn't know what a class library is. I think we've got a problem here.


This one doesn't know about foreach loops.

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