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May 23, 2017 at 12:38 history edited CommunityBot
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Apr 25, 2015 at 18:24 comment added AstroCB @Tim Anyway, the question has improved. Personally, I don't think you should have to make up an excuse for a self-answered question (although that's often common due to the reasons stated above), but I don't want to remove it because that's your decision to make.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:22 comment added AstroCB @JoDouglass I don't see it that way myself, but a lot of people I've talked to do, and that's really what I was hinting at.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:22 comment added Tim @AstroCB Ahh I see, yes good point. I have to say, I would dv some posts like this on Ask Ubuntu (although ones that were complaining more so). I tried to be neutral in this one...
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:21 comment added Jo Douglass @AstroCB I wonder if you've (indirectly) answered my question. I don't see a complaint in this post, just a person asking for guidance - his complaint was only made in the comments after a number of downvotes happened. But perhaps some people tend to read these questions as complaints regardless and feel people shouldn't be complaining, whereas I tend to read them as positive requests for help improving unless they specifically involve a complaint as well.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:20 comment added AstroCB @Tim I understand that, but the fact that you're asking for help implies a disagreement with the voting that's occurring, which is inevitably linked to a complaint when you post on Meta. That's just a guess, though – there's no way to know what people are thinking when they downvote unless they comment, and they are not bound to do so.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:17 comment added Tim @AstroCB I'm not trying to complain...
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:16 comment added AstroCB @JoDouglass That's what I meant by the fact that the reasoning "remains unclear"; you can't choose between parts of the post to vote on, however, and the complaint being made here is inseparable from the request for help improving the OP's question.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:11 comment added Jo Douglass @AstroCB I'm not referring to cases where there's a complaint being made, just those where a user asks for feedback on how to improve a specific post or their posts in general. I understand that votes here can indicate disagreement, but I don't understand people disagreeing with someone asking how they can improve their post quality.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:08 comment added AstroCB @JoDouglass Downvotes on Meta indicate disagreement. Whether that applies to this specific question remains unclear, but if anything, the downvotes here are likely in disagreement with the complaint being made.
Apr 25, 2015 at 18:06 history edited AstroCB
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Apr 25, 2015 at 14:18 comment added jkd Maybe if you rephrase your answer as if you had just solved it, it would lessen downvotes from people who downvote self answered questions
Apr 25, 2015 at 14:15 comment added Hans Passant You'll run a considerable risk of attracting RTFM votes with a question like that. It is already well explained in the manual. Maybe you can rescue it by linking to the manual and spending a few words on how the syntax notation works, in case that was the hang-up.
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Apr 25, 2015 at 13:58 comment added Jo Douglass I don't really understand the down-voting of meta questions when someone is trying to get feedback and improve how they use the site - do people doing it feel it's a lack of research, or something else? That said, I've noticed in a few cases recently there's been a burst of down votes, followed by up-votes from people who felt it was a positive sign that someone was asking how to improve, so they do sometimes get turned around.
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:57 history edited Tim CC BY-SA 3.0
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Apr 25, 2015 at 13:50 comment added Tim @AstroCB Yeah, I know :/ I'd kinda rather my Meta question wasn't downvoted - or is that bad as well...? It seems to be a valid question for here... Evidently SO people are very different to elsewhere.
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:48 comment added AstroCB Also note that by asking about the question here, you've invited the Meta effect, which can have some unintended (and unexplainable) consequences.
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:47 comment added Tim No, if it is bad without the answer it is bad. How would you suggest I show that I have researched it?
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:46 comment added πάντα ῥεῖ I'm not one of these people, to clarify. I meant the question per se reads low researched (given there's a python syntax reference). I didn't even spot you self answered it at the 1st glance.
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:44 comment added Tim @AstroCB Well then those people need to read this post blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/07/… because they are catagorically wrong.
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:43 comment added AstroCB There are a lot of reasons that people could have for downvoting, and we can't really read their minds. However, part of your problem may be that a lot of people, for whatever reason, see self-answered questions as "cheating."
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:42 comment added Tim @πάνταῥεῖ In what way? I searched for quite a while, and I still haven't found anything that solves it, other than very indirectly, and I searched for at least 15 minutes before realising the solution... How would you suggest I edit it to improve?
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:42 history edited AstroCB
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Apr 25, 2015 at 13:40 comment added πάντα ῥεῖ It's a poorly asked, and more importantly, low researched question.
Apr 25, 2015 at 13:37 history asked Tim CC BY-SA 3.0