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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/
Apr 21, 2015 at 10:51 vote accept Jordi Castilla
Apr 20, 2015 at 17:11 comment added codeMagic Yep, I never disagreed with that part at all. Discourage and punish can be completely different things. Again, it depends on the content and if it will actually be useful for others. But I think we agree, maybe I just chose poor wording at some point
Apr 20, 2015 at 17:06 comment added Travis J @codeMagic - Okay, semantically discourage and punish may be slightly different so I will try to be more direct. Targeting downvotes at experts for reasons other than the expert's posted content will drive experts away.
Apr 20, 2015 at 17:03 comment added codeMagic heh, thanks :) I guess what I am getting at is punish, no. But discourage, yes depending on the circumstance. If it's a complete crap question then it shouldn't get an answer because it likely won't help anyone else. This isn't one of those times. Overall, it depends if the answer is really going to help others or just the OP
Apr 20, 2015 at 17:00 comment added Travis J @codeMagic - Well, be torn no more. Do not punish answerers based on question quality. Encouraging quality answers should always be a priority, regardless of the question posed.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:51 comment added codeMagic I recently saw a user answer a question by starting out, "This really shouldn't be asked here but here's your answer". So I commented with "If you feel it shouldn't be asked here then you shouldn't encourage this behavior by leaving an 'answer'"
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:49 comment added codeMagic The first part I certainly agree with. The second part I've been torn on for awhile. Because we certainly don't want to encourage off-topic questions but that is sometimes a grey line if it should be answered or not. I don't think a downvote is appropriate but I don't see anything wrong with leaving a comment (if polite) other than it can obviously lead to this
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:41 comment added Travis J @codeMagic - So you agree users should vote on answers based on content? And you also agree users should not punish answerers based on the questions they answer?
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:38 comment added codeMagic @TravisJ I don't disagree with with that. I'm simply saying we can't know for sure so it isn't fair to assume in this case either. Not to say your "downvote" section isn't helpful here. Just saying we shouldn't make assumptions, no matter how probable they are.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:38 comment added Travis J @Deduplicator @codeMagic - Further, regardless of whether or not the downvote occurred (which I believe it did) this user still actively engaged in a comment thread on the answer to attempt to dissuade another user from answering questions. How is that proper?
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:37 comment added Travis J @codeMagic - 12 views, 1 comment, 1 downvote in the first couple minutes of the post. Sure, it could have been one of the other 11 people, but given the circumstance that is highly improbable.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:36 comment added Travis J @Deduplicator - I would agree with you, if not for the fact that it happens all the time. I do not find this to be far-fetched whatsoever, and the fact that it even led to a meta post is an implication that this OP wanted vindication in his choice. The downvote was an act of discouragement.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:35 comment added codeMagic @Deduplicator has a point. When someone comes to meta and says, "Why did mods downvote me", our reply is always, "What makes you think it was a mod (or any other particular user)". So it isn't really fair in this case either
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:32 comment added Deduplicator @TravisJ: That's the OP saying he downvoted the answer to the (in his opinion, did not check) bad question? That's far-fetched...
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:31 comment added Travis J @Deduplicator - The first comment which started this discussion on the post, and which led to this post. "don't encourage this questions with answers.... :( – Jordi Castilla 48 mins ago". It was coupled with what looked to also be a downvote.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:30 comment added Deduplicator Might you point out where OP asks about "downvoting the answer", instead of downvoting/closing the question?
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:30 comment added Travis J @BradLarson - I should have included that as well in my post, I had already upvoted it in the past and think your assertion is completely accurate.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:27 comment added Brad Larson Mod I totally agree. Attacking people trying to provide good answers to questions you don't like won't stop those questions from coming. It will only drive away experts who were just trying to help.
Apr 20, 2015 at 16:20 history answered Travis J CC BY-SA 3.0