Timeline for Thought experiment: What would happen if we didn't have close votes?
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Feb 21, 2015 at 4:25 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @TravisJ: Haha now I love you <3 | |
Feb 20, 2015 at 19:41 | comment | added | Travis J | @LightnessRacesinOrbit - Added the option to not murder tiny animals. | |
Feb 20, 2015 at 19:41 | history | edited | Travis J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 20, 2015 at 11:09 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | I liked this post until you encouraged murdering tiny animals. You animal. | |
Feb 20, 2015 at 10:59 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | I think you cannot get very specific simply by giving more options to the close voter. Any specific hand written comment will always be much more valuable (for the foreseeable future). Also "it is asking me to do all the work." is not really a valid close reason right now. If anything it is a reason to downvote (no re(search)). | |
Feb 20, 2015 at 9:43 | comment | added | l4mpi | I like your proposed close reasons as well as they're pretty straight forward and not as bloated as the current ones, you're just missing a "that's a typo/brainfart" one. But "Questions which make it through the list would be high quality" feels like sarcasm given that your proposed scheme would let a -2 question with an accepted or upvoted answer through. Assuming an answerer often upvotes the question, the most likely scenario means three people think the question is crap, one wants to answer it, and OP is happy to accept and/or upvote the answer. That's not an indication of quality at all. | |
Feb 20, 2015 at 8:38 | history | edited | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 19, 2015 at 22:44 | comment | added | ChrisF Mod | I like your close reasons. They cover the main reasons why we would want to close questions, but don't encourage the closing of niche questions (which I feel is at the heart of the problem). | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:43 | comment | added | user289086 | ... yes, there are good answers in those questions, but there are also very poor ones too. The questions aren't awful but rather they miss the design goals of Stack Exchange's Q&A format and thus are often a poor fit for the site structure itself. There are other formats that would handle these questions better - just people are lazy and ask on Stack Overflow as the first course of action to get the community here to answer it (because it is a great resource) rather than going to sites where the structure may work better for that question. | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:40 | comment | added | user289086 | It isn't hard to find old examples of opinion questions with lots of upvotes and these questions contain answers from users with tens or hundreds of thousands of rep. New examples can be found too. The problem is that people are not using down votes on such popular examples... and things like this are still open (note top answer). I do not believe anything short of closing is sufficient to prevent pile on answers. | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:26 | comment | added | Travis J | Should these questions be prevented? I think they should be downvoted if they ask for opinion, I wouldn't answer for one of the reasons available. I think that the downvotes and if possible, the path for closure as a result of maybe >6 downvotes and >5 unable to answer votes from >3000 rep users, would strongly discourage this type of question. Does that answer your questions? | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:25 | comment | added | Travis J | @MichaelT - The bike shed issue is legitimate though. I believe that users should probably close these as they are asking for opinions which vary widely, and probably ask for users to do all the work of building their version of a bike shed. However, this would leave the door open for an answer of which color, how many walls, a vaulted roof versus a metal one, etc. etc. | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:21 | comment | added | Travis J | ...On the other side, if users are willing to post an answer this would provide a path for them to answer it. Perhaps extra metrics could be used to lock down posts which turn into little more than popularity contests, but I feel that a post asking for your opinion of dilbert would be downvoted very quickly and as a result pushed into a place where it would not be found until the script took care of it. It is hard to tell whether or not closing the question should take answers into account. | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:21 | comment | added | Travis J | @MichaelT - So, there are two sides of the coin for answering any question. First, the suggestion here would be to indicate you couldn't answer because ... well the dilbert one fails a few of those options... mainly that it isn't related at all to coding, but also that opinions vary (Jon and Eric probably do not share the same favorite dilbert cartoon, and you probably have a different favorite than the both of them)... | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:15 | comment | added | Travis J | @MichaelT - You bring up some valid points and I will try to respond to each one separately because of comment length. While the bold portion states expert, I clarify in the text "experienced expert users", with which I was trying to state that anyone who has managed to reach the top 1000 list is probably well versed in contributing high quality content and probably pretty knowledgeable in their relative subject. As with all generalizations, it has exceptions I am sure. | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 22:07 | comment | added | user289086 | Still reading this over to try to get an idea of it. How do you define expert? Should we allow Jon and Eric to answer any question? Even "what is your favorite dilbert cartoon?" There are many high rep users who have (in the past) piled on to bike shed questions - is there any mechanism to prevent that (should it be prevented)? (coming from P.SE, I know we have page 1 users who will answer bike sheds if they don't get closed - I don't believe it is any different on SO). Would this be a 20k rep priv: ignore close and locked questions when answering? | |
Feb 19, 2015 at 21:53 | history | answered | Travis J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |