Timeline for Should "Give me a regex that does X" questions be closed?
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May 13, 2022 at 21:24 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | Being given such ill-fitting close reasons, vis-a-vis the site's goals and purpose, is the real "F you" from the site to us. | |
Jul 5, 2018 at 11:17 | comment | added | J... |
Such questions do give a specific problem. Such questions do give the shortest code necessary to reproduce it (i.e. none). Such questions do give a clear problem statement. - Totally disagree. This is a work request, there is no programming problem here at all. The problem is no more complicated than "I need a developer to write some code for me", and we definitely don't go for that here.
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Feb 12, 2015 at 17:04 | comment | added | Lance Roberts | @hvd, I'm fine with that. | |
Feb 12, 2015 at 16:47 | history | edited | user743382 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 12, 2015 at 16:45 | comment | added | user743382 | @LanceRoberts If you feel that my language was offensive, then I apologise, but the way you censored it, it is still equally offensive. Your edit doesn't help there. I've now edited it in a way that should be more agreeable. | |
Feb 12, 2015 at 16:39 | history | edited | Lance Roberts | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 12, 2015 at 9:33 | comment | added | user743382 | @slugster It has provided the shortest code necessary for explaining the problem. It has indeed not provided the shortest code necessary for making it a good question, but that isn't what the close reason is about. Yes, a lousy question remains open, but the site very strongly implies we're not supposed to close them any more. The answer linked to in the question, IMO, is a good fit for other regex questions, but not for how to do X with a regex. | |
Feb 12, 2015 at 5:58 | comment | added | slugster | What exactly do you achieve by down voting and moving on? A lousy question still remains open. We could argue the semantics of the close reason till the sun goes down - I think providing no code at all and simply asking for a ready made solution has definitely failed to provide the shortest code necessary. Of course if you don't think the canned close reasons are close enough then use a custom reason, but don't just down vote it and nothing else. And there already is a good canonical answer - if you think it isn't sufficient then feel free to spend some time on it, it is community driven. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 17:45 | comment | added | nik.shornikov | I agree with you. I also don't believe this type of question fits that close reason. I believe the real sentiment is "too simple to be worth our time." StackOverflow is about donating time. I hope it is. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 13:28 | comment | added | user743382 | @l4mpi Okay, that's food for thought, but also a discussion I'm not getting into. :) Thanks for the link. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 13:20 | comment | added | l4mpi | Yeah, but I believe this is total BS. Note that there's no explanation of how it's supposed to work. And as it's all based on OpenID, I'd say it can't possibly work; if I decide to create a new account with a new google address, the only thing that SO can use to link it to my current account is my IP (and no, they don't ban public IPs); which is easily changed or bypassed completely by using any public network for the account creation. Furthermore, there were enough cases of people bragging on meta about repeatedly doing that, see e.g. this. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 13:16 | comment | added | user743382 | @l4mpi Here's what I was thinking of. "Can I simply create a new account? No. The automatic ban is at a lower level than account." linking to Jeff Atwood's comment "it is permanent by IP, it is lower level than account". | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 13:10 | comment | added | l4mpi | You're mistaken; there are a few IP-level bans for flooding and such (e.g. a time limit for low rep users asking questions from the same IP) but there is no way SO can know if two google accounts belong to the same person and thus there is nothing they can do to to ban users "on a lower level" (afaik there is no such level, even). And yes, there are of course worse questions in python; but the problem is that many people nowadays upvote questions as long as OP can spell and dump any answerable problem, no matter how underspecified or useless or unresearched. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 12:56 | comment | added | user743382 | @l4mpi I mainly follow the c, c++, and c# tags, and if the question you linked to is one of the worst questions, then you're lucky in the python tag. :) That's a question that shows minimal research effort (the OP did search for code to achieve the desired result, but indeed nothing more than copying and pasting), and I agree that such questions should be downvoted. I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall notorious offenders being banned on a lower level than account, so that even creating new accounts wouldn't help them. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 12:49 | comment | added | l4mpi | I'm not a regular in the regex tag and only observe those questions when they spill over into python or java, but in the cases I observed, downvoting does not do a sufficient job. First of all, too many people upvote even the worst questions (e.g. this, 3 upvotes for copypasting code). Second, if people get an answer to their crap questions (which they always do), they'll keep on asking the same crap; they care for answers, not votes. They may get banned, but nothing stops anybody from making a new google account to get a fresh start on SO. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 12:42 | comment | added | user743382 | @l4mpi I wholeheartedly agree that posting such a question in the first place expresses that same sentiment, and that action should be taken to strongly discourage such questions. I disagree, however, that we should mis-use the tools we're given to achieve that faster. We can downvote such questions. We can downvote answers to such questions. And I believe that if the majority of the community can agree with that, that downvoting will do a good enough job of achieving that. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 12:37 | comment | added | l4mpi | Posting such a question in the first place is IMO the "f*** you" to the site. We expect people to do research and have a minimal understanding of what they're doing (the close reason was removed as it was abused, not because we no longer require people to have a basic knowledge of the subject). I agree the close reason is not a perfect fit and "too broad" would be better, but quickly closing and deleting such questions is the important part, not the reason. And re canonical quesiton, that would mean the dupes are not cleaned up by the roomba but stay on the site until they're deleted manually. | |
Feb 11, 2015 at 12:30 | history | answered | user743382 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |