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Aug 21, 2018 at 16:16 comment added Ben Wheeler @cybermonkey I don't think "proper" is a well defined term in reference to programming language categorization. Scratch is Turing-complete and Scratch programmers have created neural nets, first-person shooters, and Mandelbrot browsers with it, if that helps. (Disclosure: I work for the Scratch team.)
Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/
Dec 9, 2015 at 14:09 history edited Jon ClementsMod
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Jan 14, 2015 at 20:12 comment added AStopher I never said 'this tag shouldn't be allowed', Scratch is a programming language, but simply not a 'proper' one.
Jan 14, 2015 at 19:48 comment added Ruud Helderman Alternatively, you can respond to this question.
Jan 14, 2015 at 16:58 answer added Scimonster timeline score: 3
Jan 14, 2015 at 16:40 comment added Ruud Helderman @cybermonkey A discussion so engrossing, deserves its own room; let's continue elsewhere. Fact is, the tag 'mit-scratch' exists, and has been used for quite some time now. My original post concerns renaming the tag; not its raison d'être. If you feel Scratch does not belong on SO, then I suggest you post a new question "please remove tag [mit-scratch]". State your case; include references to those sharing your opinion. Then wait and see how the community responds.
Jan 14, 2015 at 12:37 comment added AStopher Many professional programmers do not regard Scratch as being a programming language at all, and if you search Meta for Scratch-related opinions you'll find similar opinions. This is primarily because as I said before that Scratch is a so-called 'visual programming language', referring to the fact programs are programmed using a mouse via drag 'n drop rather than a keyboard. It's been a few years since I tried Scratch so it might have evolved slightly since then. Moreover Scratch problems are related to mostly pure logic than anything related to the actual 'programming language'.
Jan 14, 2015 at 12:02 comment added Ruud Helderman @cybermonkey Thanks for sharing your opinion. I would appreciate a stronger argument though; I hope you can find the time to post a more elaborate answer. For one, please define "proper"; Scratch is turing-complete, regardless of its main purpose (education) and cutesy-pie visuals. How does Scratch compare to Logo and Visual Basic, in your opinion? Secondly, why should this affect the name of the tag?
Jan 14, 2015 at 9:22 comment added AStopher For all intents and purposes Scratch isn't really a proper programming language, it's a 'Visual' programming language and I personally think the tag shouldn't be changed because of this.
Jan 13, 2015 at 19:27 answer added Scimonster timeline score: 6
Jan 12, 2015 at 23:12 history edited Ruud Helderman CC BY-SA 3.0
Turned the six scratch-like tag names into actual tags, to allow easy reference
Jan 12, 2015 at 23:02 history asked Ruud Helderman CC BY-SA 3.0