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Dec 19, 2014 at 14:37 comment added smcg @MartinJames I disagree, because often the StackOverflow question will become the top Google result. Going from Google to StackOverflow and seeing "you should have googled this" is disheartening.
Dec 19, 2014 at 10:29 comment added keyser It is very useful for future visitors if it stops unwanted behaviour. Sure, a downvote is supposed to send the same signal, but new users do not know this.
Dec 18, 2014 at 13:29 comment added George Stocker Mod @LightnessRacesinOrbit and Of course, Shog's answer to that question: meta.stackexchange.com/a/210868/16587
Dec 18, 2014 at 13:28 comment added George Stocker Mod @LightnessRacesinOrbit Here's even more for you. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/210840 ...but every time I ask someone else to interpret them, I hear, "Oh, those are for questions that don't show enough effort".
Dec 18, 2014 at 13:08 comment added Lightness Races in Orbit @GeorgeStocker: "You are clueless beyond anyone's ability to help you" is not quite the same as what you said. Furthermore, "this is being used to say" is not at all the same as "this is for" — it's a matter of designed-for versus used-for. By my interpretation, jmac was [correctly] identifying how people actually used the close vote reason (and went as far as to call this trend an "issue" i.e. a problem), not describing the intention of the close reason.
Dec 18, 2014 at 12:51 comment added George Stocker Mod @LightnessRacesinOrbit The First link points to this question, and then this answer written by jmac: meta.stackexchange.com/a/215220/16587 Since I don't know whether you read that, here it is, quoting jmac's answer: I think the fundamental issue is that this is being used to say, "You are clueless beyond anyone's ability to help you", and there is no way to explain that nicely [...] . So yea, 'minimal understanding' was supposed to be for that; but was used for 'easily googeable'. We tried out easily googeable, but got rid of it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/86043
Dec 18, 2014 at 10:28 comment added Lightness Races in Orbit @GeorgeStocker: No, I remember it well. Which part of it states that "it was for questions where no answer would help because the user simply didn't understand enough about the problem to make use of the answer"?
Dec 18, 2014 at 1:50 comment added George Stocker Mod @LightnessRacesinOrbit so you missed this? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252585/…
Dec 18, 2014 at 1:18 comment added Lightness Races in Orbit @George: "Nope. It was for questions where..." That's ludicrous! That notion depends entirely on the notion that each Q&A is only for the benefit of the OP, which is patently false. Also I don't think I've ever heard that particular angle before.
Dec 17, 2014 at 23:34 comment added George Stocker Mod @MartinJames there are a number of mets posts on the subject; but if you've got a new angle on it, you should post a meta question or contribute to one of the posts on the subject.
Dec 17, 2014 at 23:23 comment added Martin James @GeorgeStocker OK, it's high-time that "Easily Google-able" became a reason to close a question.
Dec 17, 2014 at 13:36 comment added George Stocker Mod @Р̀СТȢѸ́ФХѾЦЧШЩЪЫЬѢѤЮѦѪѨѬѠѺѮѰѲѴ Nope. It was for questions where no answer would help because the user simply didn't understand enough about the problem to make use of the answer. "Googling it" may be an effect, but it wasn't the cause. That close reason was abused because others thought the same way you do, and thus removed.
Dec 17, 2014 at 13:35 comment added Cjxcz Odjcayrwl @GeorgeStocker but the lack of minimal understanding was (once).
Dec 17, 2014 at 13:24 comment added George Stocker Mod @Р̀СТȢѸ́ФХѾЦЧШЩЪЫЬѢѤЮѦѪѨѬѠѺѮѰѲѴ "Easily Google-able" is not (and has never been) a reason to close a question.
Dec 17, 2014 at 11:12 comment added Cjxcz Odjcayrwl It is however useful as the comment explaining why the question was closed.
Dec 16, 2014 at 18:51 history mod moved comments to chat
Dec 16, 2014 at 17:46 history edited Martijn Pieters CC BY-SA 3.0
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Dec 16, 2014 at 17:32 comment added George Stocker Mod Moderator Note: If you have a view on this subject, please post an answer. If you disagree with Martijn's answer, please post it as an answer. The Comments are not to argue with someone about why their answer is wrong; and certainly not to have an extended discussion about the merits of an answer. Going back and forth in the comments doesn't provide the same visibility; and it directs it at the wrong person. If those involved are interested in continuing the comment discussion here, it can be found in chat.
Dec 16, 2014 at 17:19 comment added Jon Skeet In particular, it's definitely not useful in this case as the question explicitly states that the OP has tried searching.
Dec 16, 2014 at 16:55 history answered Martijn Pieters CC BY-SA 3.0