Timeline for Should comments be auto-deleted (from Stack Exchange podcast #61)
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Apr 12, 2016 at 13:17 | answer | added | James Lawruk | timeline score: -5 | |
Dec 24, 2014 at 22:28 | comment | added | 2501 | Just make the future comments disappear, the old ones can stay, this way a slow transition can be made. If a comment is ready for deletion the author is reminded if he/she wishes to update them in an answer or question or make a new answer with them. | |
Nov 29, 2014 at 5:36 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Nov 26, 2014 at 23:10 | comment | added | Boann | The whole "comments are temporary" thing is a mad myth peddled by mad people in a mad fantasy land. It has no basis in reality, thankfully. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 22:42 | answer | added | Steve Jessop | timeline score: 4 | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 21:32 | answer | added | CRABOLO | timeline score: 7 | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 18:39 | comment | added | user3717023 | @Coffee Votes represent opinions only of SE users with 15 reputation, which are a small part of the audience. The majority of people reading and benefiting from the content posted on these sites cannot vote, as they do not have an account. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:35 | comment | added | Caffeinated | @MichaelT - That's true, it gives too much power to the user. will rethink, thanks ! | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:28 | comment | added | Caffeinated | Reason being, even if some brilliant comment lasts one whole year without an upvote, it's still an unnoticed comment. X | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:25 | comment | added | Caffeinated |
There was an interesting comment down on that blog page , however - The goal is really to clean out the rubbish without losing the value-adding content, so how do we do that? Actually, you already have a metric you cold use for that: votes provide us with a very good indication of how valuable a comment is. However, it can take time to accrue votes. So here is my proposal: Autodelete any comment which has less than 1 up-vote per month (for example.) I would change the rule to less than 1 up-vote, and checked once after a year (i.e only remove comments with 0 votes, after a year
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Nov 26, 2014 at 17:20 | comment | added | user289086 | @Coffee if you look at this question you will see issue already with owners flagging comments pointing out problems with the question. Doing it without some oversight would open up many more of such issues raised on meta. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:13 | comment | added | user289086 | @Servy there's a MSE feature request from awhile back suggesting how to offload more of the comment flagging to 10k: Make comment flagging work more like chat flagging, available to users with 10k reputation | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:09 | comment | added | Caffeinated | @Servy - Touche, touche.. that is true; it would certainly open the door for abuse like that. Hmm, I will keep thinking on it through the day. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:07 | comment | added | Servy | @Coffee People shouldn't be able to go around deleting all of the comments explaining why their answer is wrong, or what all of the problems with their question are (and you know lots of people would). It would remove one of the primary purposes of comments. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:06 | comment | added | Caffeinated | But i know... that inertia - "why are we worrying about silly comments !!!!" | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 17:02 | comment | added | Caffeinated | Perhaps the simplest modification may be to authorize any arbitrary user mod-privileges with regards to comments within their own posts. I.E if I ask a question, allow me to rule the comment-domain inside my own question. Or ... perhaps , that's too much power? I dunno... if we all agree that comments are "2nd-class", well.. giving that power is what 2nd-class means. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:58 | comment | added | Caffeinated | @Servy - Wow , that's interesting. Yeah... certainly alot of work for mods then. I will scratch my head on it... I think If Joel is commenting on comments it must be a problem ! | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:54 | comment | added | Servy | @Coffee No, it's a mod only queue, 10k users don't have access to it. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:52 | comment | added | Caffeinated | @Servy - Hmm, I see. And that queue is available only to 10,000+ rep users? That would mean it's only visible to < 1% of all users ... which yea, maybe the doors can be widened a little. If it was available to more , that would seem like easiest workaround. though admittedly that is maybe a temporary fix | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:50 | comment | added | Servy | @Coffee They're not intermingled; they have their own queue. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:48 | comment | added | Caffeinated | @Servy - Agreed , agreed. I'll chew on this idea a bit, but I think part of complication is that comment-flags are lumped into "general-flags" bin. I'm not a mod or 3000+ rep so it's hard for me to comment. But perhaps if comment flags were divorced from "general-flags" and auto-removed after some number of flags. Some ideas, I guess | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:45 | comment | added | Servy | @Coffee Really we just need non-mods to have a (practical) way to delete comments that aren't extremely offensive or spam. As it stands, comments that are obsolete, offtopic, chatty, etc. require moderator intervention, whey they simply shouldn't. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:44 | comment | added | Caffeinated | A few days ago it was suggested that we make it easier to flag/delete comments | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:36 | comment | added | gnat | related: Help us figure out a way to handle the explosion of comments on Stack Overflow at MSE and Comments without upvotes are now hidden if a question has more than two answers at Workplace meta | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:34 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters | Just put it this way: Joel has voiced loads of hair-brained ideas on the podcast, which then quickly get shut down during the cast. I'd not put too much value on his comments in that respect. :-P | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:32 | comment | added | Alexei Levenkov | @MartijnPieters I don't need discussion on it as I already made up my mind :) (also with good arguments I can change my opinion too)... But I think it may be useful to have some recorded feedback whether people think one way or another. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:31 | comment | added | Martin Tournoij | The 'comments should be temporary'-idea just doesn't work in the real world; nor should they all be edits; for example, this comment provides useful information to the OP (IMHO), but should not be an Answer; you don't want to auto-delete it, since there's no way of knowing if the the OP has read it (or he/she may want to refer to it later). | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:28 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters | So I am not sure why we need to have a discussion on this at all, really. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:26 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters | Joel may be in favour, but you can hear Jay and David are already pushing back on it in the podcast. For good reason! You don't want comments on highly-upvoted answers that are wrong today to be lost, because it'll take a while to downvote those answers. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 16:25 | history | asked | Alexei Levenkov | CC BY-SA 3.0 |