Timeline for Bad example for Close Vote review audit?
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Oct 13, 2014 at 18:25 | comment | added | Nate Diamond | Further, it's obvious that the asker of this question does not speak English as eirs first language. This made it much difficult to understand what was being asked and made it look much more like a dump of error messages. Giving assistance in this case also assists the user in finding out what kind of answers (and English) are needed to get a response. It may teach them that they can just vomit a question out, but that will not always work. When it does work I see no issue in it, so long as the resulting post is of a decent quality. People can downvote the original user if they like. | |
Oct 13, 2014 at 18:21 | comment | added | Nate Diamond | If you look at the initial version of the question, it's basically just a dump of error messages. You can, however, deduce what the person is trying to say: "I have done this and received this error message. How do I do the thing described, but without receiving this error message." This is much less of a bad question, as it gives context and describes what has been attempted. If a user can understand what is desired in the first post (as happened here), then I don't see an issue with formatting it as a proper question and then giving an answer. It can have value to someone in the future. | |
Oct 13, 2014 at 7:31 | comment | added | Adriano Repetti | About "...and spent (hours of) time on solving the problem..." I wouldn't see that. It's OP's duty, it's OP's job, it's what OP is paid for (or what OP should do to learn, in case of homeworks). To answer such questions won't help OP to become a better programmer/to learn programming. To answer such questions won't be useful to anyone else in the future (because seldom requirements are duplicated and seldom someone else will find useful your error dump). It's exactly against what StackOverflow is for. It can be OK on another site, just it's not what SO is for. | |
Oct 13, 2014 at 7:27 | comment | added | Adriano Repetti | @NateDiamond a bad question cannot be saved with editing. A bad question is completely unclear (then not eligible for a decent editing unless OP does it). A bad question is a list of his/her requirements. A bad question is merely a dump of error messages. Nothing you can improve with editing. Audits can fail because they're automatic but that doesn't change what definition of bad question is. No matters how much effort you put on editing: question is and will be off-topic. | |
Oct 13, 2014 at 7:24 | comment | added | Adriano Repetti | @Sneftel I'm not sure it may be effective or not for new users but for sure it'll stop someone to come here every time he has to solve a problem and he's lazy to do it. That's why accounts are automatically temporary banned if they ask too many bad questions. Sorry to disagree but from a bad question seldom you can have a good answer (that's why there is a badge for that, it's uncommon). | |
Oct 11, 2014 at 23:19 | comment | added | Nate Diamond | @AdrianoRepetti The new badges suggest that the SE team want people to answer poor questions on the condition that they improve the quality of the question when the intended meaning is found and (hopefully) solved. I think now that this is encouraged, we may need to adjust the way that we audit or at least assign failed audits. | |
Oct 11, 2014 at 11:08 | comment | added | Sneftel | @AdrianoRepetti That may or may not be effective at getting rid of bad questioners. It's definitely effective at getting rid of good answerers, though. | |
Oct 10, 2014 at 10:50 | comment | added | Adriano Repetti | I would never upvote someone who answers such poor questions. If it's a very good answer I won't dowvote it but I don't want to encourage answers to bad questions (or we will have even more bad questions from help vampires that don't even put some effort to describe their problem). | |
Oct 9, 2014 at 20:15 | history | answered | user3697176 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |