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Oct 3, 2014 at 19:19 comment added Allan S. Hansen I have no issues with people disliking bad questions; I tend to skip them myself or ask for clarification before judging; but it's the "majority" and "consensus" notion I commented on. Because if you judge by meta "majority" it's indeed more "the active on meta consensus" than "majority consensus". That the power users for lack of better word, don't want bad questions is different than the majority while I know they want it to mean the same. But if you think you can educate (or remove) "bad users" by essentially peer pressure against those who answer them, I fear you're in a loosing battle.
Oct 3, 2014 at 19:03 comment added Mark C. @AllanS.Hansen Your comment will lead to entirely different tangent. E.g: How do you define users? How do you define active? People who are invested in SO and want to see it survive are more likely to click the Hot Meta Posts links, because they understand some of the issues/discussion. I don't click on VLQQ posts, but things regarding general consensus (bad answers, new users, etc) I will click on and invest some interest in. Does that qualify me as active? Are we talking about Views vs Activity? Too ambiguous.. Fact: Bad questions don't deserve answers : is that not a community consensus?
Oct 3, 2014 at 17:08 comment added Allan S. Hansen Claiming "meta" is the "majority consensus" would imply that the majority uses meta and in that is in consensus. I've not seen the numbers, but I doubt the majority even knows about meta and that those who do are all in agreement? Likely it's the most active on meta and theirs consensus - but that is indeed a different state altogether.
Oct 3, 2014 at 16:19 comment added alexis @Peter, I think your last paragraph has distracted from the core of your answer: I read your main point as saying that the reversal badge encourages some checks on SO's habitual groupthink, which may be SO's modus operandi but has its limitations. Aye to that: It does happen that a question is misunderstood, people pile on, and a shining knight later comes along and sets things right with an insightful answer.
Oct 3, 2014 at 14:42 comment added Kirk Woll @Peter, lolololol. When you're ready to come down from your high horse we'll welcome you with open arms.
Oct 3, 2014 at 14:36 comment added Peter Wone @thissuitisblacknot My answer was shocking, historically significant, relevant, autosatirical and not in the least pompous, overbearing or dull. Chances are high that people actually thought about it, which it's all I wanted. The fact that I can come up with a killer headline and you can't doesn't invalidate my argument. Ad hominem argument is an archetypal logical fallacy.
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Oct 3, 2014 at 14:11 comment added Mark C. @J.F.Sebastian Is this data good enough? Meta is basically a 'collab' board where the community can discuss certain topics involving SO. Recently, there have been several very popular threads surrounding not answering bad questions, an influx of bad questions, and the waning support of experts due to such conditions. If you followed meta, you would have noticed these - that's what my comment was referencing. Either you don't have experience on meta to know what I am talking about, or you are asking about 'data' when I am discussing community consensus
Oct 3, 2014 at 13:25 comment added jfs wikipedia answers what is Anti-intellectualism. "rampant" is of course an opinion (how often do you see posts on meta that backup their self-righteous claims with data, any data (especially given that data.stackexchange.com exists and data dumps are available -- there are positive examples though). Your comment: "follow meta. That's my data." is a (minor) example. Either you don't understand why such comment might be wrong (burden of proof fallacy) or you just don't care.
Oct 3, 2014 at 12:34 comment added ThisSuitIsBlackNot Re. "Nuclear apocalypse makes a better headline." Exactly. It's like you're trying to give weight to your argument by suggesting an association between behavior on Stack Overflow and something shocking and attention-grabbing, regardless of any real link. Could questions being closed on Stack Overflow ever lead to an event like the Cuban missile crisis? Not likely. Your reference to nuclear war in answer to a question about badges on an internet site is unwarranted hyperbole that, in my mind, weakens your argument.
Oct 3, 2014 at 12:16 comment added Mark C. @J.F.Sebastian I'm not sure what a rampant anti-intellectualism is. And thank you for your opinion. I haven't seen anything rampant here. Did you want to highlight some example?
Oct 3, 2014 at 7:23 comment added jfs @OverMind: I'm not surprised. There are more people that can't read properly than people who know what is scientific method. Though it is sad to observe a rampant anti-intellectualism even from people that work in technical fields such as programming.
Oct 3, 2014 at 7:09 comment added Mark C. @J.F.Sebastian follow meta. That's my data.
Oct 3, 2014 at 6:48 comment added jfs @OverMind: btw, have you any data about the "majority"? How do you know what is the community consensus? Or is it just a feeling (perhaps correct)?
Oct 3, 2014 at 4:14 comment added Peter Wone Nuclear apocalypse makes a better headline.
Oct 3, 2014 at 0:22 comment added ThisSuitIsBlackNot Your argument would be more convincing if you discussed groupthink stifling intellectual freedom instead of jumping straight to nuclear apocalypse.
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Oct 2, 2014 at 23:20 comment added Peter Wone I'm playing devil's advocate, a vital role in my opinion.
Oct 2, 2014 at 23:18 comment added Mark C. Unfortunately, against your point, consensus is the ideology and general majority vote in this community. That's what drives change on SO. I know you said they are not always right, but keep in mind that majority (community, mob, users, whatever) is what drives the site. So, saying the majority is wrong is almost relative, situation and timeline pending.
Oct 2, 2014 at 23:13 history answered Peter Wone CC BY-SA 3.0