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Every week here at Stack Exchange, there are two meetings held concerning the development of the engine that powers these sites: one composed of the team of developers that actually implement changes, the other composed of the Community Teamthe Community Team. For those of you not familiar with the latter and too lazy to follow that link, we're basically this guy:

Simply put, many people do not do any of the necessary steps I outlined above. And I'm not just talking about the folks posting under - many support requests and even discussions create an implicit expectation for the existence of a problem to be solved, of the existence of a well-considered solution. Want a question re-opened? Closed? Upvoted? Downvoted? Commented on? Well... Why? Where did things go wrong? What led to that? Did you put any thought into this at all, or are you treating this site like an agony auntan agony aunt where you describe your woes and hope someone will do your thinking for you?

One of my biggest frustrations in the system that preceded Metathe system that preceded Meta was the inability to express disagreement by voting. Without the option to downvote, folks were implicitly encouraged to post criticisms in the comments - with the result being frequent, long, and not particularly constructive arguments on every controversial idea. Don't get me wrong - laying out your objections is a good idea - but if 20 people have the same objection, they really shouldn't need to be stated 20 times to "count". Especially if "tact" isn't exactly your thing, or you prefer ad hominem arguments.

And indeed, the common tendency is for folks whose posts are downvoted to blame everyone. "Meta sucks", they say - and returning only when absolutely necessary, tend to find this initial impression reinforced. This is not unique to meta - a recent studya recent study suggests that downvoting in forums hurts the quality of future posts by the same author, potentially encouraging deviant behavior instead of constructive improvements... An effect familiar to most people who've used traditional forums.

Every week here at Stack Exchange, there are two meetings held concerning the development of the engine that powers these sites: one composed of the team of developers that actually implement changes, the other composed of the Community Team. For those of you not familiar with the latter and too lazy to follow that link, we're basically this guy:

Simply put, many people do not do any of the necessary steps I outlined above. And I'm not just talking about the folks posting under - many support requests and even discussions create an implicit expectation for the existence of a problem to be solved, of the existence of a well-considered solution. Want a question re-opened? Closed? Upvoted? Downvoted? Commented on? Well... Why? Where did things go wrong? What led to that? Did you put any thought into this at all, or are you treating this site like an agony aunt where you describe your woes and hope someone will do your thinking for you?

One of my biggest frustrations in the system that preceded Meta was the inability to express disagreement by voting. Without the option to downvote, folks were implicitly encouraged to post criticisms in the comments - with the result being frequent, long, and not particularly constructive arguments on every controversial idea. Don't get me wrong - laying out your objections is a good idea - but if 20 people have the same objection, they really shouldn't need to be stated 20 times to "count". Especially if "tact" isn't exactly your thing, or you prefer ad hominem arguments.

And indeed, the common tendency is for folks whose posts are downvoted to blame everyone. "Meta sucks", they say - and returning only when absolutely necessary, tend to find this initial impression reinforced. This is not unique to meta - a recent study suggests that downvoting in forums hurts the quality of future posts by the same author, potentially encouraging deviant behavior instead of constructive improvements... An effect familiar to most people who've used traditional forums.

Every week here at Stack Exchange, there are two meetings held concerning the development of the engine that powers these sites: one composed of the team of developers that actually implement changes, the other composed of the Community Team. For those of you not familiar with the latter and too lazy to follow that link, we're basically this guy:

Simply put, many people do not do any of the necessary steps I outlined above. And I'm not just talking about the folks posting under - many support requests and even discussions create an implicit expectation for the existence of a problem to be solved, of the existence of a well-considered solution. Want a question re-opened? Closed? Upvoted? Downvoted? Commented on? Well... Why? Where did things go wrong? What led to that? Did you put any thought into this at all, or are you treating this site like an agony aunt where you describe your woes and hope someone will do your thinking for you?

One of my biggest frustrations in the system that preceded Meta was the inability to express disagreement by voting. Without the option to downvote, folks were implicitly encouraged to post criticisms in the comments - with the result being frequent, long, and not particularly constructive arguments on every controversial idea. Don't get me wrong - laying out your objections is a good idea - but if 20 people have the same objection, they really shouldn't need to be stated 20 times to "count". Especially if "tact" isn't exactly your thing, or you prefer ad hominem arguments.

And indeed, the common tendency is for folks whose posts are downvoted to blame everyone. "Meta sucks", they say - and returning only when absolutely necessary, tend to find this initial impression reinforced. This is not unique to meta - a recent study suggests that downvoting in forums hurts the quality of future posts by the same author, potentially encouraging deviant behavior instead of constructive improvements... An effect familiar to most people who've used traditional forums.

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##The challenges of persuading a large, critical audience

The challenges of persuading a large, critical audience

##Why folks fall on their faces here on Meta

Why folks fall on their faces here on Meta

##The value of downvotes, at last

The value of downvotes, at last

##Yes, yes, many words... So is meta broken or not, and if so can we fix it?

Yes, yes, many words... So is meta broken or not, and if so can we fix it?

###Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

##The challenges of persuading a large, critical audience

##Why folks fall on their faces here on Meta

##The value of downvotes, at last

##Yes, yes, many words... So is meta broken or not, and if so can we fix it?

###Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

The challenges of persuading a large, critical audience

Why folks fall on their faces here on Meta

The value of downvotes, at last

Yes, yes, many words... So is meta broken or not, and if so can we fix it?

Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

replaced http://meta.stackexchange.com/ with https://meta.stackexchange.com/
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Every week here at Stack Exchange, there are two meetings held concerning the development of the engine that powers these sites: one composed of the team of developers that actually implement changes, the other composed of the Community Teamthe Community Team. For those of you not familiar with the latter and too lazy to follow that link, we're basically this guy:

  • There was a FAQ sidebara FAQ sidebar on the old Meta SO, in recognition of both the Community FAQ and how frequently some questions were re-asked. I've re-enabled that here, in hope of catching a few more people before they ask common duplicates.
  • It's possible to customize the guidance shown on /questions/ask and the interstitial page shown to new meta users; let's think about what we can to do help folks get a bit more guidance on how to best ask questions here.

  • There are a lot of folks here who are probably a bit more protective of Meta than is strictly necessary - although it shares the same membership as Stack Overflow, privileges here are slightly different and more importantly the number of active users is much smaller; we can afford to relax a little bit. I'll give some thought to writing up some guidance there too. Update: separate discussion here: What is a meta for?What is a meta for?

###Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the QuestionA Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

Every week here at Stack Exchange, there are two meetings held concerning the development of the engine that powers these sites: one composed of the team of developers that actually implement changes, the other composed of the Community Team. For those of you not familiar with the latter and too lazy to follow that link, we're basically this guy:

  • There was a FAQ sidebar on the old Meta SO, in recognition of both the Community FAQ and how frequently some questions were re-asked. I've re-enabled that here, in hope of catching a few more people before they ask common duplicates.
  • It's possible to customize the guidance shown on /questions/ask and the interstitial page shown to new meta users; let's think about what we can to do help folks get a bit more guidance on how to best ask questions here.

  • There are a lot of folks here who are probably a bit more protective of Meta than is strictly necessary - although it shares the same membership as Stack Overflow, privileges here are slightly different and more importantly the number of active users is much smaller; we can afford to relax a little bit. I'll give some thought to writing up some guidance there too. Update: separate discussion here: What is a meta for?

###Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

Every week here at Stack Exchange, there are two meetings held concerning the development of the engine that powers these sites: one composed of the team of developers that actually implement changes, the other composed of the Community Team. For those of you not familiar with the latter and too lazy to follow that link, we're basically this guy:

  • There was a FAQ sidebar on the old Meta SO, in recognition of both the Community FAQ and how frequently some questions were re-asked. I've re-enabled that here, in hope of catching a few more people before they ask common duplicates.
  • It's possible to customize the guidance shown on /questions/ask and the interstitial page shown to new meta users; let's think about what we can to do help folks get a bit more guidance on how to best ask questions here.

  • There are a lot of folks here who are probably a bit more protective of Meta than is strictly necessary - although it shares the same membership as Stack Overflow, privileges here are slightly different and more importantly the number of active users is much smaller; we can afford to relax a little bit. I'll give some thought to writing up some guidance there too. Update: separate discussion here: What is a meta for?

###Related: A Proposal for More Constructive Downvoting on Meta: Express Disagreement by Answering the Question

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Forgot we disabled that. Probably because of people whining about downvotes...
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