Timeline for Fluent in Spanish? We're hiring a Community Manager for a Spanish Stack Overflow
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Sep 27, 2014 at 1:30 | comment | added | Walter Mitty | Did you mean "my questions too"? | |
Sep 26, 2014 at 6:34 | comment | added | Morcilla de Arroz | @LuiggiMendoza But, don't forget the Inca Empire (Italia invaded Spain? or Rome Republic invaded Iberian Peninsula?). Para qué habré puesto la gracia esa ... Lo decía por bromas como esta: [boredpanda.com/mapping-stereotypes/] | |
Sep 25, 2014 at 23:38 | comment | added | Luiggi Mendoza | I'm from Peru [that country in South America that Spain invaded lot of years ago and made us learn and speak Spanish] and my native language is: yes, Spanish. And I learned English thanks to StackOverflow as well, but at least the place where I work at only 10 people of at least 50 programmers don't speak English and they have problems when using SOen. This also happens in lot of places in my country and I would dare to say this is extended in South America as well. I find this SOes initiative very interesting and promising, not for me but for these people that have problems with English. | |
Sep 25, 2014 at 16:22 | comment | added | DJ22T | @CapitanCavernícola it ain't problem i was just following the joke in a weird-way :) | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 22:26 | comment | added | Guillermo Gutiérrez | @CapitanCavernícola jajaja, yo hacía lo mismo para poder construir una gran muralla alrededor de mi ciudad. Pero nunca pude ganar en nivel difícil. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 22:11 | comment | added | Morcilla de Arroz | @GuillermoGutiérrez The gold? I suppose that our politics spent it on market, to get more wood and stone, to reach the Imperial Age ... I used to do that on AoE | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 22:09 | comment | added | Morcilla de Arroz | @DannyG Well, it was a bad joke (about how many english speakers use to see us) (Espero no haber ofendido a nadie eh? Nada más lejos de mi intención) | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 22:09 | comment | added | Morcilla de Arroz | I wanted to say this: there are many spanish forums. But I think that SO may be unique. I don't want to see how SO transforms in something like 'wikipedia', do you undestand me? But I respect the points of view that you're defending. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 20:52 | comment | added | DJ22T | I live in Venezuela that country conquered by Spain where the Spanish language was perfected (teehehe) i have some known associates, college mates, among others who are amazing developers, with great logic and good skills, but they don't speak english very well, the logic of the code in english is one thing, but having to explain yourself in a proper grammar for the current language is not so easy. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 20:34 | comment | added | Guillermo Gutiérrez | Hi spanish person. I'm from one of those countries from the new world that speak spanish thanks to Spain. So... where is our gold!? ;) just kidding... I'm a fan of DRY so I didn't like the idea at glance. However, after some deep meditation, I think that SO in spanish is a great idea, because I know many programmers that don't use SO because they can't understand english, so this is a great opportunity for their professional growth and enrichment. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 19:25 | comment | added | Jonathan Drapeau | @utluiz The million is the bet I'm making, not the number of people wanting the answer. Even if a sole person in another language would like that answer, we're not, at the moment, doing a lot to get the knowledge across multiple languages. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 19:13 | comment | added | utluiz | @JonathanDrapeau If millions would like to see the answer for such question, soon or later it will be asked here. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 18:54 | comment | added | Jonathan Drapeau | @utluiz Well I disagree that they wouldn't make it to SO. If someone is asking it somewhere, in whatever language, I bet you a million someone else, in another language, would also like an answer to that question. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 18:51 | comment | added | utluiz | @JonathanDrapeau The "decentralization" of knowledge is a fallacy. It already is decentralized. Further, SO is not just a knowledge database. It helps real people to solve real problems. Yes, localized versions helps a lot. And the "barriers" that someone said is being raised is another fallacy, since when people come to know know SOxx and they like it, they will inevitably come to know other sites from SE. Yes, there are questions that will never take their way to SO, but the chances are they would never do anyway. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 17:45 | comment | added | Jonathan Drapeau | @Math The only way right now for this to happen is that people that are fluent with many languages translate the questions/answers to share them but that will probably not happen to reach the greatest number. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 17:43 | comment | added | Math | @JonathanDrapeau that's right, we are spreading the knowledge, and I believe that is the point. How does having localized SO's is "not reaching the greatest number of people as SO should"? How would that be achievable by not having them? I can't get that.. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 17:33 | comment | added | Jonathan Drapeau | @Math And the circle starts, the answer someone not fluent in any other language than English is in another language, he can't benefit from that answer unless he tries to translate it or learn the other language... We're not gaining more knowledge, we're spreading it unevenly. I'm not saying the other sites don't have a purpose, I'm saying we're not reaching the greatest number of people as SO should. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 17:29 | comment | added | Math | @JonathanDrapeau I don't see a problem with that. Please check the utluiz reputation in SOPT and in SOEN (20k vs 264). What a great knowledge was not being shared with the community just of because of language and cultural barriers? Now in SOPT he is comfortable to participate and is being useful for several other people. Here, he was almost unnoticed, in all this 2 years of "participation". Same happened to several other persons. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 16:45 | comment | added | Jonathan Drapeau | @utluiz And there it is, the decentralization of knowledge. Those better answers might never be translated to English, or other languages based SO sites. That's the real bad part of it. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 16:23 | comment | added | utluiz | @X.L.Ant In SOpt we have some great answers that aren't present in the main site, besides local technical questions. Many users are finding better answers in their own language. There were cases where the OP posted the same question on SO and SOpt and got better and more numerous answers on SOpt. Sorry, but even though there are some concentration of great programmers here, you're just missing other great programmers out there. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 15:46 | comment | added | Duck | I agree. They have created "estouro da pilha" that is stack overflow version in portuguese. Portuguese is my natural language. I never used and will never use the portuguese version. First because 1)the top knowledge is on the english version because of the variety of people from different languages 2)who thinks to work with computers seriously nowadays have to talk english or have to find another job. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 15:31 | comment | added | David Fullerton Mod | @X.L.Ant You don't have to speculate how it will end up. We've already done the experiment with SOpt and it is certainly not "bloated with mediocre answers to mediocre questions". I can't see why Spanish would be fundamentally different. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 14:13 | comment | added | xlecoustillier | IMHO, that's exactly why localized SO won't work : people will look for answers where they might actually find them, that is on english SO. And they'll ask their questions there too. Localized SO will most likely end up bloated with mediocre answers to mediocre questions because of that (and to be clear, not because non english speakers are mediocre, don't kill me right now :) | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 10:51 | comment | added | Morcilla de Arroz | dolan +1 It was a joke... It wouldn't be the first time that someone thinks that Spain it's near Brasil... | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 10:43 | comment | added | user703016 |
Spain [that country of Europe where spanish language were founded] ಠ_ಠ
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Sep 24, 2014 at 10:38 | comment | added | László Papp | That is the spirit. This is not completely correct English, but we understand it, and appreciate the answer. That is all we need here to get the ball rolling. | |
Sep 24, 2014 at 10:35 | history | answered | Morcilla de Arroz | CC BY-SA 3.0 |