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  1. StackOverflowStack Overflow is again using "in-band" communication leverage of its Q&A meta-channel--which is trusted on good faith to be spiritually belonging to the volunteer community that built quite a lot of it--to do promotion for projects that are tangents. SuchSuch posts would be looked on harshly if non-SE-employees posted their own similar ideas.

  2. If StackOverflowStack Overflow is considered a system which has finite resources to spend on addressing issues--expanding into new areas is not what the online MMO Q&A game addicts want right now. TheyThey want those resources applied to get the problems in the game patched up.

(It's funny that the sidebar advertisements promoting the role playing stuff remind me of how this really is very, very similar to trying to manage a D&D campaign. YouYou want to get everyone to play nice, to keep people from walking away from the table. II think the stakes are higher here as I consider it education and a piece of planetary-scale problem solving, but games educate too in a way.)

I think #1 is foundational. InIn that vein, I have re-entered an off-topic close-vote in protest on this basis. OfOf course I'm not blind and know you run the site and can delete any vote I raise or post I make. ButBut...I'll point out that you do control the ad space...and you have a blog. No one will get on your back any more than the "get a goob at StackExchange"Stack Exchange" ads that you don't charge yourself for (well, in a sense you might, if you had paid ads you're not running). ButBut worth it for more clicks and less backlash.

Posting in-band here isn't fitting. ThereThere are other voices saying: "we are giving you feedback that you're encroaching on the part of the space that was promised to the community to manage issues of the game they bought into." PleasePlease think again the agreements of those coming to play at a D&D table, and the risks of appearing unfair to the point that people want to walk away. YouYou benefit much more when people say "that was a good game, we'll be back next week!" vs. knocking all the pieces off the table and saying "YOU, SIR, ARE A TYRANT!"

(Though that can make for its own funny melodrama. DependsDepends how zen you want to get. I'mI'm trying to stay in character, a little.)

If you would just promote your video projects and women in technology ideas through the ad space, and announce new features at a rate that everyone felt the wheels of progress were turning...I don't think anyone will care if you make videos or buy solid gold computer desks. YetYet the game has some implicit rules that the players feel you are breaking, and some of us are speaking up about it.

  1. StackOverflow is again using "in-band" communication leverage of its Q&A meta-channel--which is trusted on good faith to be spiritually belonging to the volunteer community that built quite a lot of it--to do promotion for projects that are tangents. Such posts would be looked on harshly if non-SE-employees posted their own similar ideas.

  2. If StackOverflow is considered a system which has finite resources to spend on addressing issues--expanding into new areas is not what the online MMO Q&A game addicts want right now. They want those resources applied to get the problems in the game patched up.

(It's funny that the sidebar advertisements promoting the role playing stuff remind me of how this really is very, very similar to trying to manage a D&D campaign. You want to get everyone to play nice, to keep people from walking away from the table. I think the stakes are higher here as I consider it education and a piece of planetary-scale problem solving, but games educate too in a way.)

I think #1 is foundational. In that vein, I have re-entered an off-topic close-vote in protest on this basis. Of course I'm not blind and know you run the site and can delete any vote I raise or post I make. But...I'll point out that you do control the ad space...and you have a blog. No one will get on your back any more than the "get a goob at StackExchange" ads that you don't charge yourself for (well, in a sense you might, if you had paid ads you're not running). But worth it for more clicks and less backlash.

Posting in-band here isn't fitting. There are other voices saying: "we are giving you feedback that you're encroaching on the part of the space that was promised to the community to manage issues of the game they bought into." Please think again the agreements of those coming to play at a D&D table, and the risks of appearing unfair to the point that people want to walk away. You benefit much more when people say "that was a good game, we'll be back next week!" vs. knocking all the pieces off the table and saying "YOU, SIR, ARE A TYRANT!"

(Though that can make for its own funny melodrama. Depends how zen you want to get. I'm trying to stay in character, a little.)

If you would just promote your video projects and women in technology ideas through the ad space, and announce new features at a rate that everyone felt the wheels of progress were turning...I don't think anyone will care if you make videos or buy solid gold computer desks. Yet the game has some implicit rules that the players feel you are breaking, and some of us are speaking up about it.

  1. Stack Overflow is again using "in-band" communication leverage of its Q&A meta-channel--which is trusted on good faith to be spiritually belonging to the volunteer community that built quite a lot of it--to do promotion for projects that are tangents. Such posts would be looked on harshly if non-SE-employees posted their own similar ideas.

  2. If Stack Overflow is considered a system which has finite resources to spend on addressing issues--expanding into new areas is not what the online MMO Q&A game addicts want right now. They want those resources applied to get the problems in the game patched up.

(It's funny that the sidebar advertisements promoting the role playing stuff remind me of how this really is very, very similar to trying to manage a D&D campaign. You want to get everyone to play nice, to keep people from walking away from the table. I think the stakes are higher here as I consider it education and a piece of planetary-scale problem solving, but games educate too in a way.)

I think #1 is foundational. In that vein, I have re-entered an off-topic close-vote in protest on this basis. Of course I'm not blind and know you run the site and can delete any vote I raise or post I make. But...I'll point out that you do control the ad space...and you have a blog. No one will get on your back any more than the "get a goob at Stack Exchange" ads that you don't charge yourself for (well, in a sense you might, if you had paid ads you're not running). But worth it for more clicks and less backlash.

Posting in-band here isn't fitting. There are other voices saying: "we are giving you feedback that you're encroaching on the part of the space that was promised to the community to manage issues of the game they bought into." Please think again the agreements of those coming to play at a D&D table, and the risks of appearing unfair to the point that people want to walk away. You benefit much more when people say "that was a good game, we'll be back next week!" vs. knocking all the pieces off the table and saying "YOU, SIR, ARE A TYRANT!"

(Though that can make for its own funny melodrama. Depends how zen you want to get. I'm trying to stay in character, a little.)

If you would just promote your video projects and women in technology ideas through the ad space, and announce new features at a rate that everyone felt the wheels of progress were turning...I don't think anyone will care if you make videos or buy solid gold computer desks. Yet the game has some implicit rules that the players feel you are breaking, and some of us are speaking up about it.

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So I don't feel as strongly that anyone has a right to mandate that SE doesn't use its investment dollars to expand; that's outside the "implied contract". I can only share a personal feeling that you may take or leave. That isfeeling comes from the observation that as growing pains have become very apparentare overwhelming, yet I have not perceived the kind of "continuous advancement" from the site tech there once was. It's a spooky kind of Craigslist feeling, almost like the original developers died a long time ago--and now maintenance zombies run it, because nothing is changing at a speed one would call impressive.

If you would just promote your video projects and women in technology ideas through the ad space, and keepannounce new features at a rate that everyone felt the feelingwheels of progress flowingwere turning...I don't think anyone will care if you make videos or buy solid gold computer desks. Yet the game has some implicit rules that the players feel you are breaking, and some of us are speaking up about it.

So I don't feel as strongly that anyone has a right to mandate that SE doesn't use its investment dollars to expand; that's outside the "implied contract". I can only share a personal feeling that you may take or leave. That is that as growing pains have become very apparent, I have not perceived the kind of "continuous advancement" from the site tech there once was. It's a spooky kind of Craigslist feeling, almost like the original developers died a long time ago--and now maintenance zombies run it, because nothing is changing at a speed one would call impressive.

If you would just promote your video projects and women in technology ideas through the ad space, and keep the feeling of progress flowing...I don't think anyone will care if you make videos or buy solid gold computer desks. Yet the game has some implicit rules that the players feel you are breaking, and some of us are speaking up about it.

So I don't feel as strongly that anyone has a right to mandate that SE doesn't use its investment dollars to expand; that's outside the "implied contract". I can only share a personal feeling that you may take or leave. That feeling comes from the observation that growing pains are overwhelming, yet I have not perceived the kind of "continuous advancement" from the site tech there once was. It's a spooky kind of Craigslist feeling, almost like the original developers died a long time ago--and now maintenance zombies run it, because nothing is changing at a speed one would call impressive.

If you would just promote your video projects and women in technology ideas through the ad space, and announce new features at a rate that everyone felt the wheels of progress were turning...I don't think anyone will care if you make videos or buy solid gold computer desks. Yet the game has some implicit rules that the players feel you are breaking, and some of us are speaking up about it.

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