Timeline for An experiment: Stack Overflow TV
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Sep 6, 2014 at 19:18 | comment | added | rocket101 | Similar things that are, by your standard, "unrelated" to what SO does haven't caused doomsday. See: Careers 2.0 | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 19:42 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Rachel: Oh, yeah, sorry. | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 19:40 | comment | added | Rachel | @LightnessRacesinOrbit ... I see. When you said "you're in the middle of a brain drain with your experts leaving in hordes", followed by Adam's comment of "I wasn't aware SO's devs were leaving", I had assumed you meant SE employers. I see you actually are referring to SO users. Ok different story then :) | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 19:28 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Rachel: meta.stackexchange.com | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 18:51 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Rachel: I'm not going to reproduce here the contents of the largest meta.SE threads all year. | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 18:48 | comment | added | Rachel | @LightnessRacesinOrbit Where did you hear that? I'd be interested in hearing what former devs at SE say about why they left | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 16:06 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | @LightnessRacesinOrbit - I wasn't aware SO's devs were leaving. That probably is a problem if true. What I was trying to say is that the types of problems facing SO are incredibly hard. The hard part of fixing them is figuring out what to do, and how to address them. I don't think this idea prevents that, and if they ever do figure out HOW to keep the low quality crap off SO, I assume they have the devs to implement it. | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 15:29 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Adam: It's not about a couple of technical bugs; it's about a fundamental problem with SO that is well-documented on meta lately. It's all well and good saying "we have good devs here, why not use them?" but when you're in the middle of a brain drain with your experts leaving in hordes due to fundamental misclarity about SO's core mission, well, that doesn't seem like the right time to further confound the problem. Also I think you vastly underestimate the effort required to implement this idea. | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 13:54 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | @Cody - I'm glad the people at Google didn't have that mentality when someone pitched the idea of Android. I don't know how much the SO brand is festering, but I also don't think the resources they're putting on this (some video production equipment / people) are really taking away from cleanup up SO: Joel has plenty of devs on payroll at SE. Anything not getting fixed is likely for reasons other than lacking resources. | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 6:06 | comment | added | sampathsris | @AdamRackis: Nobody is telling them not to do videos. Yes, some people have pointed out the disadvantages in videos as a medium for teaching, but general backlash is about Stack abusing their position to bend their own rules for them. They could have used their blog and ads to promote it. | |
Sep 5, 2014 at 4:49 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @Adam Because the most successful companies stick to doing one or two things really well, lest they lose their competitive edge. Resources are finite; new projects shouldn't be started just because they sound cool. Especially when your core brand (Stack Overflow) is festering. If the SE team has extra time, there are a lot more important things that they could be working on. The first rule of good management is knowing when to say "no". You have to decide what your mission is and focus on doing that. ken2k's point is that this seems to contradict SE's core mission. | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 19:23 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | @ken2k - in that case you're making an even sillier argument. SE team is trying to do something NEW. Something they haven't done before. I don't know if these videos are a bad idea, but saying the videos should have to have content that comports with existing SO standards is kind of senseless, don't you think? | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 19:22 | comment | added | ken2k | @AdamRackis I was talking about the content of the videos, not the announcement itself. Pretty normal to talk about that here indeed. | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 19:19 | comment | added | Adam Rackis |
If I ask this on Stackoverflow my question will be closed - It's pretty standard for the SE team to use MSO to announce new features and happenings that they're working on.
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Sep 4, 2014 at 19:01 | comment | added | Kendra | @ken2k I would agree completely if they said they planned to do questions like this. If they're doing a programming based video to introduce people to technologies and not putting it on the main sight, but instead just giving it the name Stack Overflow TV to show the correlation of programming, I don't see as big an issue. I would argue... Different media, different rules. Chat vs. questions, for instance. | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 18:47 | comment | added | ken2k | @AdamRackis Sorry, just trying to find some consistency in there. The FAQ of Stackoverflow currently says: Don't ask about Product or service recommendations or comparisons, while the goal of those videos is described as: the viewer should know whether this is a technology they want to pursue further. If I ask this on Stackoverflow my question will be closed either as too broad or opinion based within seconds. I don't see any valid reason I should upvote this feature. Stackoverflow is a Q/A site for specific developer issues, not a place you start learning X or Y. That's just unrelated. | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 18:10 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | What about chat, the third(?) place (meta being the second) - aren't discussions allowed in chat? This could be the fourth place. | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 18:08 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Used the official name of Stack Overflow - see section "Proper Use of the Stack Exchange Name" in http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance (the last section).
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Sep 4, 2014 at 17:33 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | I can't believe all the narrow minds here. The people who run stack overflow (no, I mean actually run it, who collect a salary) are clearly trying to do some bigger things than what SO normally does. And why shouldn't they? They have probably the biggest, smartest audience of devs in the world: why not try to parlay that into something more. This may or may not be the best idea, but it's quite silly to say that SO shouldn't do X, because SO doesn't usually do X. | |
Sep 4, 2014 at 16:36 | history | answered | ken2k | CC BY-SA 3.0 |