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Aug 16, 2014 at 15:25 comment added Palec @CodyGray: Aren’t scores already highly biased upward? I think that there is no need for an average post to have zero score. The important thing is being able to tell the quality of a post. Good content is upvoted and excellent… even more. Quality content floats to the top.
Aug 16, 2014 at 15:14 comment added Palec @CodyGray The problem isn’t downvotes, per se, but encouraging responsible downvoting. That’s why on Stack Overflow, we do it this way: • Upvotes add 10 reputation to the post author • Downvotes remove 2 reputation from the post author, and 1 from your reputation … The net effect is that you have to feel very strongly about something to downvote it. Downvotes are serious business, and not to be cast lightly. We designed our system around that maxim. I’m not sure if I get right the meaning of discourage, but I meant it as “encourage to downvote less than we would otherwise”.
Aug 15, 2014 at 13:23 comment added Cody Gray Mod Jeff says in that blog post that downvotes are integral. The only thing he says against them is that they're "not to be cast lightly". Fine, I'm not disagreeing with that. But that's not the same thing as discouraging downvotes. I don't cast any votes lightly.
Aug 15, 2014 at 13:23 comment added Cody Gray Mod I vehemently disagree that "The voting system was designed to encourage upvotes and discourage downvotes unless necessary." There is absolutely nothing in the design that is reflective of that, and I don't think that would be a good idea. Scores would become heavily biased upward, which undermines the utility of voting as a ranking system for posts. If a question or answer is heavily downvoted, that is a good sign to others that it is not worth spending their time reading. No, it isn't rational—that's why we need to discourage this reaction, not embrace it.
Aug 15, 2014 at 11:33 comment added Palec @CodyGray You seem to dismiss the emotional side of downvoting. The person loses nothing tangible. Just the feeling that they behaved right. The voting system was designed to encourage upvotes and discourage downvotes unless necessary. Negative feedback is much stronger than the positive one, but may hurt. It is not rational, people just work like that. Interesting to read The Value of Downvoting, or, How Hacker News Gets It Wrong @ Stack Exchange Blog.
Aug 15, 2014 at 9:56 comment added Cody Gray Mod You don't lose 1 rep point when downvoting on Meta, but the person who gets downvoted also loses nothing. So…what's the problem again, @palec?
Aug 15, 2014 at 9:51 comment added user456814 @Palec see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/268779/…
Aug 15, 2014 at 9:34 comment added Palec I wholeheartedly agree that voting is broken on [meta], it is confusing, does not provide good feedback. Some divergent thoughts: I think the system does not help follow the official guidelines. Could adding more visibility to different nature of feature-requests help? What about existing votes when retagging as feature-request – should feature-requests always be set up as new questions and just link to the original discussion? Regarding downvoting, could it be that the psychological break of losing 1 rep point when downvoting is seriously missing here?
Aug 14, 2014 at 23:05 history edited user456814 CC BY-SA 3.0
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Aug 14, 2014 at 22:34 history edited user456814 CC BY-SA 3.0
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Aug 14, 2014 at 22:32 comment added Jason C I.e. You view SOA as a fresh start for a meta perceived as broken? Bandaids arent a good way to solve these kinds of problems. Besides, Metas current culture, like it or not, happened organically even though it probably started with similar ideas. So when SOA culture goes down the same path, is SOAA next? Solve the problem. The "problem" is here. Don't keep putting it off with bandaids.
Aug 14, 2014 at 22:12 history edited user456814 CC BY-SA 3.0
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Aug 14, 2014 at 21:26 comment added bjb568 The burden should always be on the asker. If the asker is duping or didn't read the help center or is ranting or doesn't have common sense or is a help vamp, downvotes are expected. And beneficial to the rest of the community.
Aug 14, 2014 at 21:20 history answered user456814 CC BY-SA 3.0