Timeline for Require a comment explaining the reason for the first downvote on a question
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Nov 24, 2019 at 5:43 | comment | added | Quidam | It's simply not realistic to ask people to be rational. | |
Jan 22, 2019 at 11:10 | comment | added | Alisson Reinaldo Silva | @deceze makes sense, just wanted to understand if that also applied to answers. I was frustrated because all of a sudden I got 4 downvotes in different answers of mine in less than 15 minutes. The votes got reversed today (not sure why), but I didn't know if I was answering a lot of bad solutions or someone was just trolling me (maybe I was rude without realizing and the person retaliated smh? That's a problem of not being a native speaker). Thanks for your reply. | |
Jan 22, 2019 at 5:59 | comment | added | deceze Mod | @Alisson Totally. Note though that this topic is about downvotes on questions. | |
Jan 22, 2019 at 5:09 | comment | added | Alisson Reinaldo Silva | Sometimes your answer is a solution that worked for many people, but an expert suddenly crosses that answer and sees some bad practice in it (although it works). The expert downvotes and run away. How can the answerer figure the reason alone considering only an expert would be able to see it and many other people found it helpful? Even if they managed to figure, wouldn't it be easier if that expert guy just gave a hint? | |
Jan 22, 2019 at 5:01 | comment | added | Alisson Reinaldo Silva | If a Q/A has many upvotes and suddenly someone downvotes it, that downvoter is an outlier. Either they downvoted for no reasonable reason, or that person has deep knowledge and found something wrong which all other people couldn't realize, or their problem is different hence the answer won't help them. In any of those cases, either the person is misusing the downvote tool (but they won't learn if we don't have their feedback), or the person should have downvoted because their reason was an oddity among many people and you shouldn't think one would be able to identify the reason alone. | |
Jul 20, 2016 at 20:26 | comment | added | Robert R Evans | @deceze "Eventually all roads point to meta.SO, where you can ask a specific question about a closure if you need to". Well, that's new info for me, so thanks | |
Jul 19, 2016 at 13:25 | comment | added | deceze Mod | ... And again, there is help being thrown your way if you care to follow the trail. The automatic close reasons point to many different resources you can peruse (help center et al). Eventually all roads point to meta.SO, where you can ask a specific question about a closure if you need to. SO proper is not the place to discuss such things in detail (again, SO has a specific focus, which is why we're cleaning stuff out in the first place). So you really do have a bunch of avenues to pursue, you're not dependent on voters explaining their votes. | |
Jul 19, 2016 at 13:22 | comment | added | deceze Mod | ... The people doing the voting often just want to vote and then move on with their lives. If they're so inclined, they may take the time to interact with the question more, for whatever personal reasons motivate them. But they don't have to. They should not be required to (topic of this thread here). If they were required to, much less cleaning would get done. – I get that it's not ideal if you're on the receiving end of such an uncommented downvote, sure. But there's no real alternative to that. (cont.) | |
Jul 19, 2016 at 13:19 | comment | added | deceze Mod | @Robert It's all an issue of practicality. 1) You need to accept that things on SO are being voted on, and why that is so. If you disagree with that premise, there's nothing much to talk about here. If you do agree with that premise, we're at the practicalities... 2) There are thousands of new questions each day on this site, a lot of them garbage. On the other side there are only so many people doing the voting and cleaning. All of them volunteers. Nobody wants to spend forever cleaning out questions. It is impractical and unrealistic (see first sentence of my post). (cont.) | |
Jul 19, 2016 at 13:08 | comment | added | Robert R Evans | @deceze 3. If there is something else to do when receiving a downvote, please explain. I have seen commentary to the effect that "pushing back" on a downvote is considered whiny and discouraged. Perhaps I misunderstood. | |
Jul 19, 2016 at 13:07 | comment | added | Robert R Evans | @deceze 2. I don't see why examining other downvoted questions that would help. I ask what seems to be a well-researched, clear, and useful question, and it is downvoted without comments. Seeing downvoting comments on other questions MIGHT help, assuming you have never seen this before. But not necessarily, and (obviously?) I am discussing exactly that case. | |
Jul 19, 2016 at 13:07 | comment | added | Robert R Evans | @deceze I'm not following you. 1. If there are comments, fine, that's what I am advocating. The discussion here is exactly about the (allegedly rare) situation where there are no comments. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 15:25 | comment | added | deceze Mod | @Robert 1) It rarely is just one bit, more often than not you will find comments. 2) There are more than enough other questions to compare yourself to, and a metric ton of these do have comments. 3) There are many more metric tons of meta discussions which you can peruse if desired. – Let's not pretend there's absolutely nothing left to do for you when you receive a downvote. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 15:20 | comment | added | Robert R Evans | "Figure out yourself where your weaknesses may lie"? Based on ONE BIT (up/down) of information? | |
Feb 12, 2016 at 4:08 | comment | added | kraftydevil | If people could figure it out themselves then they wouldn't come to this site now would they? | |
Feb 9, 2016 at 16:53 | comment | added | Pancho | From what I understand, not withstanding the commercial aspect, the purpose of SO is to uplift and enhance knowledge. Your answer does not adhere to this tenet and thus can only be incorrect. | |
May 7, 2015 at 17:22 | comment | added | cmbarbu | It's all the progress of society: we have schools and mentors. Schools to learn the rules and mentors for personal feed back. And, specially in higher education, both are becoming mandatory. | |
Oct 13, 2014 at 19:29 | comment | added | Francis Rodgers | -1 - I disagree. In any tolerant society (and the IT society is one of the most tolerant) we alienate people we don't like by leaving them alone. Which is equivalent to not voting at all. If we like them we spend time around them. Equivalent to up voting. By this analogy down voting is actually downright abusive and is equivalent to beating people with stones. I therefore propose that if a reason cant be given for a down vote, then the down vote should not be allowed. | |
Sep 6, 2014 at 22:41 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | That being said, people downvoting because some approach in a question is not based on "best practices" is wrong and those people are wrong. Educating against that is a different problem though. | |
Sep 6, 2014 at 22:40 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Josh It seems like you didn't bother to read this answer, or perhaps you did not understand it. | |
Sep 6, 2014 at 22:37 | comment | added | Josh | @LightnessRacesinOrbit This doesn't have much to do with people being lazy and expecting people to do their work. In fact that's an incredibly negative and arrogant view. Some of the best learning can be achieved when someone begins to understand how something isn't best practice or given a better way of performing an action and you cannot learn that if your question gets railroaded by a half of a dozen down-votes because of that and no comments saying so. | |
Sep 6, 2014 at 22:35 | comment | added | Josh | This isn't always about writing bad quesitions, there are many instances where the way someone wants to perform an action or style an html page that aren't 'best practices' so the question gets down-voted. There is no educational value to the down-vote without the explanation of 'you should not do this, this is why'. | |
Aug 11, 2014 at 9:22 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | +1: Spot on. People are so lazy, expecting everyone to do the learning for them. | |
Aug 8, 2014 at 10:44 | vote | accept | TaW | ||
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Aug 1, 2014 at 12:59 | vote | accept | TaW | ||
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Aug 1, 2014 at 10:10 | history | answered | decezeMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |