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Jul 16, 2014 at 9:18 comment added user456814 @user3450598 see How can I encourage Stack Overflow to rein in the 'subjective' vigilantes?.
Jul 16, 2014 at 9:16 comment added jscs Sure thing, @Cup.
Jul 16, 2014 at 9:15 comment added user456814 @JoshCaswell B.I.N.G.O. Thank you sir, thank you.
Jul 16, 2014 at 9:14 comment added jscs I didn't recall it, but is this the one? meta.stackexchange.com/a/200144
Jul 16, 2014 at 9:08 comment added user456814 @JoshCaswell there's supposed to be a Meta Stack Exchange post that has a graph of site traffic before and after the quality standard changes on Software Engineering, do you happen to remember which post that was? I'm having trouble finding it.
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:53 comment added jscs Please stop using Programmers as your toilet bowl and Adding discipline to programmers.stackexchange.com, @user345
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:47 comment added awksp Actually, never mind. My brain is totally fried, and I feel that I'm losing my train of thought too frequently to formulate a coherent comment...
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:43 comment added awksp In addition, it seems that you seem to be confusing the quality of the question with the content of the question. SO has never had anything against beginners nor those with less knowledge; it's just that there tends to be a correlation between that and the quality of their questions. Beginners and the inexperienced are perfectly able to get help here, given that they write a valid and coherent question that follows the site's guidelines. (cont.)
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:41 comment added awksp That philosophy precludes some categories of questions, such as those which tend to age out pretty quickly. The other thing is that those "solid answers" you speak of are possible primarily because of the site's restrictions. Not all questions can have solid answers, and those types of questions are usually not encouraged. Sure, you can have great answers to "bad questions", but those aren't always too common... (cont.)
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:39 comment added awksp @user3450598 Sure, there are always people willing to answer. The thing is whether they coming back, and for that you need both a good reputation for your site and good content in your side (which plays into the former). Sure, the knowledge base of SO could be very helpful -- but other places have reasonable userbases too. The issue sometimes is just that the format of SO is not particularly useful for some types of questions, and other times the questions go against SO's philosophy -- to become a "reference" of sorts that will be relevant to both the OP and future readers. (cont.)
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:21 comment added user3450598 @user3580294 Im sure there will always be people who'd be willing to answer. The thing is I think the knowledge-base of Stack Overflow could be very helpful for new programmers or those that have more general questions than the site allows. I know that I couldn't think of a better place to go if I want to get solid answers that can be checked for quality. There can be great answers to "bad questions" that will be very helpful to many. The quality standards are put in place presumably to help people, but are beginners or those with less knowledge not equally worthy of help?
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:19 comment added user3450598 @Cupcake no I did not know that, I didn't know that had been implemented. I'd have to look into a post to read the arguments about it.
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:17 comment added awksp @user3450598 Part of the reason SO is so popular is because of these quality standards. Sure, creating another site with different standards will let people ask their questions without fear of retribution, but I can't imagine that place being too popular for people who want to answer, as we already get enough complaints about quality as is. Thus spurring people to post here once again, and BAM -- you're back where you started.
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:16 comment added user456814 @user3450598 do you realize that the "4th place" suggestion eventually became Software Engineering, but the site quality was so low that they had to enforce quality standards again? There should be a Meta Stack Exchange post about that somewhere...
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:12 comment added user3450598 Ah I have posted in that topic now Josh, as I do believe that is a very good idea, and I find it sad that so many people have been against it without thinking of how many people it would help.
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:06 comment added Infinite Recursion That Area51 is a nice initiative to mentor new joinees, +1 for mentioning that @Cupcake
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:01 comment added jscs See: The fourth place: polling, recommendations, and subjective-ish stuff, @user, and make sure to read through the links in the sidebar. That's an old idea.
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:01 comment added user456814 @user3450598 Meta Stack Overflow (and I'm sure Meta Stack Exchange too) are already full of similar suggestions, if you want to go look for them...
Jul 16, 2014 at 7:59 comment added user3450598 Perhaps there SHOULD be a subforum of some kind for broader questions, for discussion questions, or even for very narrow questions (less useful than broad or discussion questions). If there already exists one of this type, then maybe rather than just closing a topic, it should be moved to this place, and the link placed in the original topic? So that way somebody google searching it could find the information they need, and also be informed where they should post similar issues?
Jul 16, 2014 at 7:57 comment added user3450598 I suppose you're right Josh, in that the two are different issues. I guess it was my problem searching that made me frustrated with the seeming "trigger-happiness" of questions being closed. The reason I related the two is because a method of making it not so easy to just close questions would lessen the amount of people asking questions and not receiving help, but I do see that this is flawed. I do wonder if there's a solution for the closed question searches. Because while I see that it does discourage "bad" questions, it also just discourages people who might as well just be answered.
Jul 16, 2014 at 7:54 history edited user456814 CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 16, 2014 at 7:51 comment added jscs You've got two different problems, @user3450598, that you keep bringing up and conflating: your search dead-ends, and people who are asking questions that get closed. The second, people asking questions that don't fit for some reason, is not a problem that's going to be fixed by becoming more egalitarian. The first might be soluble if you would like to talk more specifically about it.
Jul 16, 2014 at 7:50 comment added user456814 @user3450598 see Stack Overflow Academy.
Jul 16, 2014 at 7:48 comment added user3450598 I guess I just disagree with the mindset that so many users are "not worth helping." With Stack Overflow as THE site that shows up on searches, it's an obvious place to come for help. And I know the rules are in place for a reason, I just wish there was a better way to help these people than to just close their topics especially when the questions could be answered. Turning up a closed question on a google search is especially unhelpful. I see now the method I gave had flaws, I just feel like there has to be some way to allow people to not feel so unwelcome, and to actually get help
Jul 16, 2014 at 7:36 history answered user456814 CC BY-SA 3.0