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Apr 22, 2023 at 12:24 comment added Karl Knechtel @paul23 I started trying to edit the question that you held up as an example, but gave up on trying to make it meet site standards. It's far too confused, because it's based on misconceptions. Most importantly, UTF-8 is not a "byte ordering", does not use a single byte per character and is not what you get from "just reading the bytes". Also, it comes across in this question that you know what the file encoding is, but it's based on a previous question in which you assert that you do not.
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Jul 4, 2014 at 11:59 comment added Lightness Races in Orbit "Elitism is a feeling/emotion" No, it's not...
Jul 3, 2014 at 11:41 comment added Anthony And for the record, some questions just suck. Don't ask a question that's clearly a vague attempt at screen scraping with a wall of painful code, have triple question marks on every sentence like you're problem is so confounding and finish with "I apologize for my English". Yes, language barriers can make a question less clear, but any experienced SO user knows how to distinguish between messy writing (which some native speakers of English are also guilty of) and questions asked by a sweat shop worker who is looking for a shortcut to generating code that will suck even if we help.
Jul 3, 2014 at 11:34 comment added Anthony Elitists don't join bandwagons, but I know what you mean. I'm more likely to down vote if it's already gotten down voted, simply because I figure comments already have been made on why it's a weak question. And "level" of question and "quality" can often correlate. But I have seen my share of lazy questions on "how do I get xyz() to use abc in R", so striking down quality is not about punishing inexperience but laziness.
Jul 3, 2014 at 11:24 comment added Antti Haapala -- Слава Україні There are perfectly many questions asked by OPs who are totally novice in Python, and I will gladly give them up votes if the question has some idea. I did answer your question, and after your edit I reversed my vote on it. SO does not want to avenge you or be elitist, but the wording of your original question was quite hostile and was based on shallow research and misunderstanding of the Python programming language. Furthermore, Martijn Pieters who wields the Mjölnir in Python tag kindly advised you that this is a non-issue, but you then added a rant to the original question.
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:59 comment added JJJ I don't understand these "downvotes are because of elitism" comments. Wouldn't that mean that all questions get downvotes? Or all questions by low-rep users get downvotes? How does the elite decide which questions they target in their elitist wrath?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:58 comment added deceze Mod I think in that specific case there are more than enough comments underneath...?!
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:57 comment added paul23 stackoverflow.com/questions/24527961/… example of me not understanding where all the downvotes came from. "Meta effect" apparently - but I still don't get why anyone would downvote that! - I got commented that it was unclear, so I cleared up and it still keeps getting downvotes? Really now that is elitsm and joining the bandwagon?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:56 comment added deceze Mod Votes on meta express disagreement or agreement; on SO proper they express perceived quality.
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:55 comment added paul23 Just like this post is getting downvoted - in a discussion an opinion should be "removed"?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:54 comment added deceze Mod Then the downvote itself is already saying something, and likely the question will be closed eventually (and often pretty rapidly) with a canned close reason. Not good enough?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:52 comment added paul23 Many posts have downvotes without any comments.
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:51 comment added deceze Mod There's already so much commentary in place in the system. Nobody wants to repeat themselves endlessly with the same comments. Why do you feel the existing hints aren't enough?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:51 comment added paul23 Of course the more communication -.-
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:50 comment added deceze Mod So, from your perspective, what would you like to see changed? Less negative voting? Or simply more communication about why the voting happened?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:50 comment added BartoszKP "That is almost the definition of the word "elitism" - thinking you're better (so downvoting)" This is wrong. Downvoting primarily means (or should mean) that the downvoter thinks the question is bad (unhelpful/unclear/etc.). It's completely irrelevant to elitism.
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 comment added paul23 It still gives the feeling. Elitism is a feeling/emotion. And like I said - the problem comes when you get repeated down votes without reasons. Or reasons you can't understand "how is it x?"
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:45 comment added deceze Mod IMO that's because you (and others) may be misunderstanding the meaning of a downvote. SO is not a forum. It's a knowledge base. Think of it more as Wikipedia than anything else. Close- and downvotes are not cast due to holier than thou reasons, but because we're maintaining the knowledge base. "The elite" acts on this motive. Is that were the disconnect may be?
Jul 3, 2014 at 10:42 history answered paul23 CC BY-SA 3.0