Timeline for Reviewing some awful questions is just a waste of time, can we have a "no comment" close reason for these?
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Oct 28, 2017 at 15:41 | history | edited | jscs | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Polishing some small rough spots.
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Aug 19, 2014 at 5:42 | comment | added | Hans Passant | It was deleted by a moderator. Probably best to leave it that way... | |
Jul 3, 2014 at 17:42 | vote | accept | iwein | ||
Jul 1, 2014 at 1:54 | comment | added | jpmc26 | One might argue that this is a case for "minor" edits not causing a bump. Hm. | |
Jun 30, 2014 at 12:11 | comment | added | Ben Voigt | "even though 50% of it was a just link soup and exactly matched a comment posted to the question".... that's because the answer was converted TO a comment by a moderator; at no time did both answer and comment exist, nor did the comment pre-exist the answer, which your analysis preassumes. C'mon Hans, you're smarter than this. | |
Jun 30, 2014 at 10:36 | comment | added | PlasmaHH | @FrédéricHamidi: I think for half of the points he mentioned, there are already feature requests, or at least suggestions or discussions. At least I have that feeling from the last months of MSO posts. But I can only guess that SE people are waiting for someone to come up with the perfect solutions instead of just trying out some of the proposed things; even though they have problems, they are often better than nothing. | |
Jun 30, 2014 at 9:53 | comment | added | brasofilo |
(: a rogue troll from the darkest depths of the Internet, bent on seeing the utter annihilation of SO , is this a sequel for the Lord of the Rings, The Lord of the Tags? @Sam :)
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Jun 30, 2014 at 8:08 | comment | added | Sam | @CodyGray I understand, it's very impractical to leave a comment for every DV anyway. Well it was the right thing to do (mentioning my name) otherwise I wouldn't have know any better, thanks BTW. | |
Jun 30, 2014 at 6:42 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | I was that user who downvoted your answer, @Sam, when I first saw it. It is likely that downvote that Payeli referred to. It is probably my mistake for not leaving a comment explaining my objection(s), but I've grown weary of leaving comments along with my downvotes, there just isn't enough time in the day. And I don't mean to shame you personally here, you were just the one responsible for this problem. Lots of people have made the same mistake that you have, it's why Hans calls this a "systemic problem", not a "rogue user" problem. The system for burnination is fundamentally broken. | |
Jun 30, 2014 at 6:07 | vote | accept | iwein | ||
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Jun 29, 2014 at 21:14 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | @Hans, don't get me wrong, this is a great answer. However, only a few of your points are actionable on their own (e.g. no, I'm afraid we cannot do much about Southern-Asian members getting spurious upvotes, and I suspect they're not alone). That said, the actionable points would warrant a feature request or two IMHO, are you planning on doing that (or would you mind others doing that with your answer as a base)? | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 21:09 | comment | added | László Papp | Yet another great answer from Hans. THANK YOU! | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 20:30 | comment | added | Fattie | It's how aircraft accidents happen !! | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 14:27 | comment | added | Sam |
@Payeli Thanks : ) I thought the DV's were a result of me forgetting to fix all the problems with posts as I was burninating, not a disagreement with the burninating itself. I certainly will (request [status-completed] ]), thank you for clarifying.
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Jun 29, 2014 at 13:22 | comment | added | Sam | ...Which is the problem when an "eager-to-help" user is not properly informed (as I didn't find any documentation saying burnination shouldn't be done by a single user). Once again, I am sorry for any inconvenience caused. I do however, now know the proper way to participate in a burninate request, and thus I'm now a reformed editor. | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 13:21 | comment | added | Sam | ...This happened for at least two/three separate tags (I think), so I naturally assumed that this behaviour was acceptable and correct. So I continued without any warnings or comment of any kind from the community or any Mods, which is how I caused this issue. A simple lack of clear communication. If someone had posted a comment saying I should not burninate tags by myself (and also mentioning the correct protocols to follow whilst burninating), none of this would have ever happened... | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 13:21 | comment | added | Sam |
...Generally as a "proactive" person I like to channel my time and efforts into helping maintain this great site. I've burninated several tags before I started on [header] , all of which I followed the same procedure. That is; I looked for posts tagged with [burninate-request] , and if the community had agreed with the request, and if I was interested in helping burninate that specific tag, then I would post an answer stating that I had started the burnination. (Which I now know is not the correct means of carrying out such events.)...
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Jun 29, 2014 at 13:20 | comment | added | Sam | I can only offer my humblest apologies and the assurance that I will never allow this to occur again. I do just want to say that I'm not a rogue troll from the darkest depths of the Internet, bent on seeing the utter annihilation of SO; I thoroughly enjoy working with other users on SO and regard the site as an important resource for not only me, but for the millions of other users that each contribute their own part. I would also like to take this opportunity to state how I came to that appalling state... | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 9:00 | history | edited | Hans Passant | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 29, 2014 at 5:37 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @Cupcake That's the only snippet of this answer I can even slightly disagree with. But I don't think burying these edits in yet another tab is the right approach, either. Hans already hints at the way to solve the problem: fix the burnination process so it doesn't have to be by "vigilante user actions" that require community review. The community review should have happened here on Meta (like someone tried to do), and then once community consensus is reached, should be complete by an SE employee without bumping. Sam was in the wrong here. | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 3:00 | history | edited | Qantas 94 Heavy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Remove abuse of inline code spans
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Jun 29, 2014 at 2:39 | history | edited | Hans Passant | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 29, 2014 at 1:26 | comment | added | user456814 | Here's one: Let's have a different burnination process. | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 1:19 | comment | added | user456814 |
Regarding burnination, I agree that the current system is a little flawed. For example, this user has recently doing a lot of inappropriate trivial edits, all in the name of burninating the [do] tag (this user also appears to have been involved in serial upvoting sockpuppeting, given his large serial upvote reversal). I think there may have been other Meta or MSE posts about the burnination process though, I'll have to go look for them later.
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Jun 29, 2014 at 1:16 | history | edited | user456814 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Fixed typo.
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Jun 29, 2014 at 1:15 | comment | added | user456814 | "Removing a tag is of course not a reason for anybody to have to look at the question again." Still though, it is useful to have knowledgeable experts review new edits to questions and answers, to make sure vandalism doesn't sneak in, or worse, incorrect information that's not so obvious and harder to detect. Maybe there should be a special tab just for reviews, so that people who are only interested in answering don't have to look at them. | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 0:58 | comment | added | Hans Passant | I addressed the OP's question and explain what went wrong and how he can help to do something about that. Advising him how to spend his free time to tell morons exactly in which way they are being stupid is not something I ever considered. And I certainly don't think that any SO user is going to be helped by his question getting closed with "Too broad". They are weasel words, the "click the mouse" example is obvious nonsense that got me to post this answer. Feel free to post your own answer please. | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 0:40 | comment | added | hichris123 | I did, in fact, read the whole thing. I'm talking about the bottom part, where you say "Pick anything" and "until everybody at SO just ignores the need to pick an accurate close reason". | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 0:38 | comment | added | hichris123 | Um... what? Don't you want people to improve their question? By picking a random close reason, you're saying, "Hey, improve your question, but my advice is aspiewpoarwlerk." Would that make you want to come back? No. Would that help you make it better? No. | |
Jun 29, 2014 at 0:32 | history | answered | Hans Passant | CC BY-SA 3.0 |