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Jun 27, 2014 at 21:36 comment added krillgar Here's one that I stumbled across that leaves little doubt that any effort has been provided as well. I was making my own question when this popped up as a possible duplicate question. stackoverflow.com/questions/24441075/…
Jun 18, 2014 at 15:35 comment added Servy @assylias Sounds like you need to read Shog's post here. You're conflating effort spent trying to solve the programming problem with effort spent searching for an existing solution to the problem on the web. The site has made it very clear, with no change in policy, over its entire lifetime, that research effort is expected of all questions to avoid duplicating content. Effort spent actually trying to solve the programming problem is...more complex, and also off topic here, so I won't try to explain anything about it.
Jun 18, 2014 at 14:55 comment added assylias @Servy I am not saying that it is or is not the site policy - I don't know to be honest because there have been so many changes in the past 2 years. However I tend to agree with the answer I linked to that the amount of effort is irrelevant - if the question is clear and brings good answers, then it is probably worth keeping it on SO. I am obviously not including in that category poorly worded question that are essentially saying "give me the code to my specific problem that is not going to apply to anybody else" - those are useless...
Jun 18, 2014 at 14:48 comment added Servy @assylias So because one person really really wants to see lots of really crappy questions means that that is suddenly site policy? Did you not see the two answers above it in the answer list, both of which explaining why the site policy of expecting research for questions is very important?
Jun 18, 2014 at 14:44 comment added assylias @Servy I don't think it is that clear.
Jun 18, 2014 at 14:16 comment added Servy @assylias It's been site policy for the entire lifetime of the site that questions are supposed to be well researched.
Jun 18, 2014 at 14:12 comment added assylias @Servy I don't think what you describe is the site official policy.
Jun 18, 2014 at 14:03 comment added Servy @assylias But it does make the content useless. Nobody is helped by the content that wouldn't otherwise have found it. There is no value added to the programming community by duplicating that content here. I didn't say it was offtopic, I just said it wasn't helpful. It's not acceptable here because the site has specifically said that questions should be well researched. That is a requirement of asking questions here specifically because we don't want to just duplicate already accessible content.
Jun 18, 2014 at 13:55 comment added assylias @Servy that is not what SO is about. A significant part of SO content can be found in blogs, official documentation, other websites etc. That doesn't make that content useless or off topic.
Jun 18, 2014 at 13:43 comment added Servy What makes you think that these questions are adding any value. You appear make the claim that they are doing no research, and that had they actually tried to search for the answer to their question they would have found it. If that's the case, then what possible value is there in duplicating that content here? People may end up finding their answer their, but if they didn't, they would have found it anyway in whatever source it displaced. So it's not actually adding value to anyone, which is done when adding information not already accessible.
Jun 18, 2014 at 12:14 comment added Lev Levitsky The questions you link to in the answer are fine as part of a tag wiki list of "frequent questions". I think nowadays such questions are only acceptable if they are asked specifically for the purpose of providing a canonical answer. I also think only a tiny fraction of short no-effort questions are of this kind, and even if they are accidentally closed, there is a way to reverse it.
Jun 18, 2014 at 11:44 comment added Serge P @assylias I recollect another reason "minimal understanding". It was removed but it suits to examples above.
Jun 18, 2014 at 11:07 comment added Serge P @assylias You are right. "too localised, unlikely to help future visitors" was good one and it could be suitable for my examples. So we have doubts while flagging questions because of lack of reasons... P.S. I've started to flag as "too broad" (for low effort questions) as it is the most suitable flag.
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:55 comment added assylias @SergePashkevich This is a good example indeed, although I don't know if it's off topic: it is about programming and contains a fairly clear problem statement. It would probably have been "too localised, unlikely to help future visitors" a few years ago but that close reason is gone...
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:43 comment added Serge P @Philipp: I took part in flagging your example :-) It was difficult to choose the reason...
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:40 history edited assylias CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jun 18, 2014 at 10:38 comment added BoltClock Mod @Philipp: Ignore the "off-topic" misnomer and focus on the specific reason that is given in the close notice.
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:38 comment added Serge P I agree with you that it can be quite difficult to determine quality of question. As for number one - I like it as it shows some effort, but what can you say about it stackoverflow.com/questions/24282684/…
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:37 comment added Philipp Gayret What about this question for example? This is now an off-topic even though it isn't ( simple syntax err ), but off-topic is chosen because the question is bad but there is no other close reason.
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:36 comment added Bakuriu Number 3 seems off-topic and more appropriate for computerscience.SE (nowadays)...
Jun 18, 2014 at 10:31 history answered assylias CC BY-SA 3.0