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Jun 6, 2014 at 18:29 comment added Ben Voigt @Makoto: You're welcome to take it as-is, but the comments have suggested that some variation might be needed.
Jun 6, 2014 at 18:28 vote accept Makoto
Jun 5, 2014 at 2:47 comment added Ben Voigt @Makoto:the ideas is that tags without a gold badge user aren't high volume enough to review themselves, and will still need to have the community at large do so.
Jun 5, 2014 at 1:42 comment added Makoto I like these suggestions, but I feel that gold is a bit too ambitious (as not all tags have a gold badge user in them). Perhaps silver? I'll be revising my proposal accordingly to see what else could come of this.
Jun 4, 2014 at 20:21 comment added artless-noise-bye-due2AI Often people not involved with the tag don't understand that information can prevent X-Y questions. This maybe good to get content approved as well. There is also the concept of related tags, that maybe beneficial. For instance, trust-zone, cortex-a, cortex-a8 are all derivatives of arm. For instance with the tag sas, it seems that sql people may be competent. Remember, if none of the criteria exist we default to the normal use case.
Jun 4, 2014 at 18:58 comment added Ben Voigt @Joe: The second thing is that I'm not convinced that sas wiki suggested edits never being approved is really a problem. The 20 most involved users in the tag would all have the ability to edit the wiki, no approval required.
Jun 4, 2014 at 18:56 comment added Ben Voigt @Joe: So let high-rep uses count for 2 of the 3 required accept votes. But don't allow an accept that no user active on that tag has looked at. Use notifications to get the attention of one of those users, if necessary.
Jun 4, 2014 at 18:48 comment added László Papp @Joe: I think Ben is trying to write about common tags, not corner cases. Let us fix the majority first, and then we can think about the corner cases. I personally support this, +1, not that it matters much as the decisions are not taken democratically anyway.
Jun 4, 2014 at 17:29 comment added Joe Sure, except again, in my tag I do have a gold badge. There are 12 users with bronze or above badge in sas, 7 of which have some reasonable activity level lately. Other than me, one of them has completed even a single review task in the last three months, and that was on a single day performing a few dozen reviews (and was all of his reviews, ever). In your example, no sas wiki edit would ever be approved.
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Jun 4, 2014 at 17:20 comment added Ben Voigt @Joe: That's why tags with no gold badge are exempted.
Jun 4, 2014 at 17:18 comment added Joe Adding in "top 20 users" or whatever isn't helpful either - in many small tags the top users have a few hundred rep. They can't access review tools.
Jun 4, 2014 at 17:13 comment added Joe Without trusted users being able to approve, there's zero chance this would fly - I'd certainly heavily oppose it. You've got to trust people at some point to review things; no other review task requires tag familiarity, for good reason. I've reviewed dozens of tag/wiki edits, almost never in tags i'm familiar with, and I'm almost always able to reasonably adjudicate them. The ones I don't feel comfortable with I skip - same as everyone should.
Jun 4, 2014 at 17:12 comment added Joe One person can't approve a tag or wiki edit (unless they're a mod I guess). And I don't necessarily review all that much either... it is easy enough for me to identify spurious edits and fix them.
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Jun 4, 2014 at 16:50 comment added Ben Voigt @Joe: Also, if you're the gold badge holder, and no one else has even a bronze badge, you're clearly pretty active and willing to contribute; I think SO should lean heavily toward giving you (effective) ownership of the tag wiki.
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Jun 4, 2014 at 16:41 comment added Ben Voigt Ok, top users in the tag I can agree with. I don't like the question's proposal to allow "trusted users", which sounds purely rep-based, to make edits.
Jun 4, 2014 at 15:57 comment added RobV So perhaps the modification should be "If any gold badge has been issued in the tag, no edits or reviews by users who don't hold a bronze badge or are in the all time top users"
Jun 4, 2014 at 15:55 comment added RobV +1 In small tags badges are acquired mostly by perseverance because both votes and questions are rare, for example in sparql I am the only one with a bronze/silver badge (there are no golds) yet the top sparql users includes people I would consider world leaders in the tag such as the authors of the W3C specification and of the leading reference implementations
Jun 4, 2014 at 15:40 comment added Joe You need people reviewing. Small tags may not have people reviewing even if they have badges ...
Jun 4, 2014 at 15:38 comment added Ben Voigt @Joe: We're talking about wiki edits... you don't need a large number of users, at all, for those.
Jun 4, 2014 at 15:34 comment added Joe Unfortunately, I suspect that wouldn't be enough, because you often have a single gold badge in small tags. sas for example, I have a gold badge - and there aren't even enough other users with remotely high rep to close questions most of the time. While there are several bronze badge users, they're really not on often enough nor do I suspect they review all that often.
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