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May 23, 2014 at 11:38 | comment | added | Ejaz |
copy-and-paste as a substitute for thinking and understanding is a shame my thoughts exactly. The businessmen (employers) are abusing the profession by demanding code grow and the employees, which can be regarded as programmers because they work for a person who tasked them to just make programs - make sense or not, are abusing the profession by posting "jst gimme teh codez" questions on SO and actually getting help. I happened to encounter such programmer on SO that kept posting subsequent question using previous question's answer as body of the question. That's just ridiculous!
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May 22, 2014 at 8:21 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | I give the nudge in the right direction typically as a comment and refuse to answer questions that show not enough own research effort. But my reaction to this answer was: well then it's mostly a filtering, match-making, ignoring problem. As soon as everyone is able to find the questions and only them he/she loves to answer - all will be fine. | |
May 21, 2014 at 21:10 | comment | added | jscs | Definitely agreed, @matt; and what's usually worse is the feeders who provide crappy snippets proving that nobody in the vicinity is using his or her brain! | |
May 21, 2014 at 20:57 | comment | added | matt | @JoshCaswell "when a person who already has understanding is Googling for answers, sometimes the snippet is all that's required" Sure, and I pick up snippets all the time. But that is not the same as "make me a snippet, now, so I don't have to search or think" - which is what is cluttering up SO over and over these days. | |
May 21, 2014 at 20:44 | comment | added | jscs | I enjoy reading and answering the same type of question that you're talking about, @matt, but I think what Steve is trying to say is that, when a person who already has understanding is Googling for answers, sometimes the snippet is all that's required. For that skilled someone, of course, it's not as something to copy-paste; it's just the clearest expression of the solution to the problem at hand. That person doesn't really fall into the "send teh codez" bin, anyways. | |
May 20, 2014 at 18:34 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | Sure, copy-paste code leads to an unmaintainable mess because the author never understood it. My employer knows that, but nevertheless doesn't want code written for its own sake because writing code is enjoyable and challenging. But without going so far as copy-paste-able code, SO still IMO generally calls for complete answers to the question posed, not just the kind of nudge you might give someone who's stuck on a puzzle that they "really" want to solve all by themselves but can't. In fact that used to be the difference between a good answer to a "normal" vs "homework" question. | |
May 20, 2014 at 18:32 | comment | added | matt | @SteveJessop Yes and no. Your employer may not realize it, but "growing your code" cleanly and intelligently and in a way that permits future change of direction, maintainability, etc., is actually much more important than number of lines of code or number of features implemented or whatever. That requires understanding what you're doing. Plus bugs (misbehaviors) are likely to be fewer. If your employer doesn't understand that, run! | |
May 20, 2014 at 18:29 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | I'm not in favour of copy-paste coding, but I will point out that to some people (e.g. my employer) the purpose of programming is to produce code, not an abstract mental exercise for its own sake. Those people probably want to be helped in different ways from someone who wants help with a crossword ;-) They do want the answer, which is a step beyond wanting help with an exercise even if you don't go so far as to want the answer in the form of copy-pasteable code. As such I'm not sure that "an exercise" is a good model for the purpose of programming for SOers in general. | |
May 19, 2014 at 15:47 | history | answered | matt | CC BY-SA 3.0 |